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Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:11 am

Based on this track I would say "definitely no"

kvnes · Post by **kvnes** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:47 am

I remember 'O fortuna' that sampled Carmina Burana's O fortuna. It was a club hit in the 90's.

kvnes · Post by **kvnes** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:48 am

"The best "trance" riffs and melodies I have heard are by guys like Bach, Vivaldi, Telemann etc."

Sorry for the double post I forgot to quote the post I was responding to and I guess I didn't click edit, but the other button.

I remember 'O fortuna' that sampled Carmina Burana's O fortuna. It was a club hit in the 90's.

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:47 am

Ok. I don't think it's a bad track, but it sounds unfinished. Which is the biggest sin in music afaiac. As mentioned before. I don't think it's thin, but it's got no particular distinction in it IMHO. It lacks a certain 'touch.'
So I looked for a track to compare as it comes to the aspect of simplicity.
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First of all: association. This track does not remind me of 1997. Also mentioned before. Secondly, there is little tension going on (contrast or 'build up/release') to make this track sound distinctive in its genre. It has no real vibe going on. It does not move me.
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By comparison: the following track reminds me of 1994. There's not going on more than in '1997', so that's no excuse. Also this track was produced in no time. But it has got all the elements to be outstanding in its genre IMHO.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VLui_8t2thc

Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:08 am

Distorted Horizon wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:28 pm Did it ever go away?

No, it was just hiding in the basement.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:22 am

Sparky77 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:08 am
Distorted Horizon wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:28 pm Did it ever go away?
No, it was just hiding in the warehouse.

FTFY

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:43 am

This song reminds me of 1997:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JgRBkjgXHro

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:52 am

I think everyone may have their own definition of "classic trance" depending on whet they have heard trance for the first time. My "classic trance" is early to mid 00's, like these tunes

In late 00's/early 10's trance was heavily injected with progressive and electro-house and later with brostep and wub-wub stuff and that track in the OP rather reminds me of that period, could have been made circa 2010-2012 but not earlier.

I have no idea what trance sounds like now, but the so-called "uplifting trance" which was basically an overproduced and heavily brickwalled version of early 00's trance sound still existed in 2012, i think someone may still be making it even now.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:52 am

Is classic trance going to make a comeback?

No, it won't. You can't make 10000th identical track and still amaze people. Trance market has been saturated for years and 90% of tracks are just a copy-paste of another tune released three months earlier.

Also, the technology has advanced and contemporary tracks are just way more sophisticated than classic ones. People get bored with them, the same way the're bored with 50's monster movies.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:07 am

These are where it started for me in the early 90s:

And of course Platipus Records, followed by Dragonfly before finding my spiritual home at TIP records.

anomandaris1 · Post by **anomandaris1** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:23 am

One of the few tunes without vocals that achieved commercial success and is still popular worldwide:

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:48 am

^It was just one-hit wonder. A novelty, which success was never repeated. We're not getting lots of tunes based on that sceme every now and then

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:09 am

recursive one wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:52 am I think everyone may have their own definition of "classic trance" depending on whet they have heard trance for the first time. My "classic trance" is early to mid 00's, like these tunes

Yes, but, that's not "classic trance." You are using the English connotation of the word when, like "techno," it's usually thought of as a genre (even though Ishkur asserts that it isn't). Mushy Mushy gets it right. The trance that you are talking about was well into the period where trance had already significantly evolved into commercialism. Classic Trance, aka Trance, is that which existed when the genre was coined in the early 90s.

In late 00's/early 10's trance was heavily injected with progressive

Wot? You mean circa 96/97, right? Back in the late 90s the trance rooms were filled with giddy teenagers exclaiming how beautiful the breakdowns were. All of the euro/epic/progressive/uplifting variants injected the maximum amount of cheese into the genre. Tiesto was ALL PROGRESSIVE ALL THE TIME!

Maximum eye-roll is often achieved with cheese-meisters such as this gem from 1999. To be clear though, the 15 year olds were grinning from ear to ear while munching hard on their binkies whenever this was played.

I distinctly remember watching armies of fur clad street urchins running into the trance room as soon as the needle dropped on this, although, to be fair, I find it more tolerable than Rank 1.

The only trance that I like post 95 or so is the hard/acid varieties and not even all of that. I get off the bus when that devolves into hardstyle, which is just a different flavor of cheese.

That said, even this is a guilty pleasure and I won't admit that I like this stuff in polite company. (From 1999)

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:12 am

DJ Warmonger wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:48 am ^It was just one-hit wonder. A novelty, which success was never repeated. We're not getting lots of tunes based on that sceme every now and then

Thank god!

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:20 am

I don't think so. A lot has happened in the recent years and everyone is trying to develop their own "characteristic" sound and style. Because if you sound like everyone else, you won't be successful.
There are many classic trance tracks (in the sense of "old") that are still great today, but this mediocre stuff (like in this example by Ferry Corsten) won't have anything like a comeback. It's too mediocre.

This is also "classic" from the end of the 90s, but I think it's going in the direction of Goa trance.