Well, I don't have a PhD in music history, I talked about what "classic" trance was to me. I started listening to electronic music circa 2006 and trance sounded like that at that time, I really liked it. To me tracks like these I have posted had some actual "entrancing" effect. I know there was trance in the 90's but to me most of it sounded too simplistic and under-produced (as opposed to "uplifting trance" in it's early 10's form which I though was over-produced, over-compressed and oveloaded with unnecessary synth and reverb layers, at the expense of actual "entrancing" qualities). The only trance acts from the 90's I still really like are Astral Projection and Man With No Name, but i think they really stood out in terms of production and musical quialities.ghettosynth wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:09 amYes, but, that's not "classic trance." You are using the English connotation of the word when, like "techno," it's usually thought of as a genre (even though Ishkur asserts that it isn't). Mushy Mushy gets it right. The trance that you are talking about was well into the period where trance had already significantly evolved into commercialism. Classic Trance, aka Trance, is that which existed when the genre was coined in the early 90s.recursive one wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:52 am I think everyone may have their own definition of "classic trance" depending on whet they have heard trance for the first time. My "classic trance" is early to mid 00's, like these tunes
Is classic trance going to make a comeback?
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That IS Goa Trance.4damind wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:20 am This is also "classic" from the end of the 90s, but I think it's going in the direction of Goa trance.
Speaking of classic trance, here is an evergreen masterpiece (IMO) from 1996:
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ASYS was the music we always played on the way to the club and it got us f*cking pumped!
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Astral Projection are one of a handful of godfathers of Goa, and if you disagree then you're just flat out wrong. It's not even a question of opinion TBH.
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"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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I always thought goa trance was invented by Vini Vici.Mushy Mushy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:46 amAstral Projection are one of a handful of godfathers of Goa, and if you disagree then you're just flat out wrong. It's not even a question of opinion TBH.
Because, you know, Skrillex invented dubstep.
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Yeah, there were a couple classical songs transformed for the dancefloor. William Orbit did Barber's Adagio then Ferry Corsten did a trance remix, and Tiesto did his own version as well as Tomaso Albinoni's Adagio with "Athena". O Fortuna isn't trance, it's more like UK hardcore/Belgian techno, around the same time LA Style's James Brown is Dead was popular.
Robert Miles' Children is a unique song, people were saying it started the sub-genre Dream Trance, there was a joke at the time that ravers would sleep on the floor when a DJ played it since it smashed the charts worldwide.
Trance in 1994 was something like Paul Van Dyk's For An Angel:
In 1999, Ferry Corsten (as Pulp Victim & Moonman) The World sampling Maire Brennan:
Also 1999, Ferry Corsten and Tiesto (as Gouryella) with Gouryella:
In 2001, Ferry Corsten again, as System F with Dance Valley Theme 2001 (note the heavy 90s-style Big Beat and 1999 Flat Beat wubwub influence):
Robert Miles' Children is a unique song, people were saying it started the sub-genre Dream Trance, there was a joke at the time that ravers would sleep on the floor when a DJ played it since it smashed the charts worldwide.
Trance in 1994 was something like Paul Van Dyk's For An Angel:
In 1999, Ferry Corsten (as Pulp Victim & Moonman) The World sampling Maire Brennan:
Also 1999, Ferry Corsten and Tiesto (as Gouryella) with Gouryella:
In 2001, Ferry Corsten again, as System F with Dance Valley Theme 2001 (note the heavy 90s-style Big Beat and 1999 Flat Beat wubwub influence):
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This track is really good and I can't think of any modern equivalent to it.anoise wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:40 am Speaking of classic trance, here is an evergreen masterpiece (IMO) from 1996:
It somehow reminds me of some of mid 00's progressive (psy)trance, with heavy use of percussion, lots of floating atmoshperic sounds and melodies, like this
I wonder if anyone is making music like this today. There is "progressive psytrance" but it's basically slowed down regular psytrance, completely different vibe.
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It probably could, Hyper Reality Records podcast is worth checking out a few of to hear how they've done it with hard trance which has less producers. I prefer it for creativity compared to some of the same instrumentation trance nowadays.
It would likely just take a collective of trance producers keen on the older style with modern production to do the same. Money wise though I think back then people had more time to spend on tracks. But I don't see why that means people should limit themselves to supersaws and pianos now.
Listening to classic trance there to me only seems to be a couple of tracks per mix that would use mainly supersaw riffs with other tracks using other synth sounds.
Not many of the drums and hats all sounded from the same pack back then either, just takes a spot of imagination, maybe some soul and a bit longer on overall concept and it could be back blowing people away way more often.
It would likely just take a collective of trance producers keen on the older style with modern production to do the same. Money wise though I think back then people had more time to spend on tracks. But I don't see why that means people should limit themselves to supersaws and pianos now.
Listening to classic trance there to me only seems to be a couple of tracks per mix that would use mainly supersaw riffs with other tracks using other synth sounds.
Not many of the drums and hats all sounded from the same pack back then either, just takes a spot of imagination, maybe some soul and a bit longer on overall concept and it could be back blowing people away way more often.
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"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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AvB didn't make any trance in 10 years, he probably just slaps his name over some ghost-produced trash. Or some agent does it for him without even notice.
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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AvB didn't make any trance in 10 years, he probably just slaps his name over some ghost-produced trash. Or some agent does it for him without even notice.
I saw a Junkie XL episode a while back and he discussed ghost producing Tiesto's tracks. It was really quite funny to see him discuss it in such a diplomatic and political style. He never mentions ghost producing but it's as clear as day you know what he's meaning.
Found it.
Although strictly speaking ghost producing involves no mention of the actual producer so it's arguable that this isn't ghost produced.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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Funny, I kind of waited until someone would drop 'Age Of Love' here.
Funny, I kind of waited until someone would drop 'Age Of Love' here.
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