Wavetable Blowout: Massive X vs Avenger vs Serum vs Icarus vs Pigments...

[jeffb01]

I see, thanks. Good points.
Also, for Rapid I understand that you can load and import a sample and use it as a sound source? Like could I import a .wav to use as a sound source?

I was thinking these 2 could work well together: DUNE for the more VA, subtractive stuff, and Rapid for evolving wavetable sounds

Yes. I forgot. It's a full sampler. I haven't explored that area a lot, but definitely could use a .wav as a sound source.

I agree that they would work well together. I hear that Dune has a nice wt editor. So you could probably make wt in dune and use them in rapid.

[Coda4]

I see, thanks. Good points.
Also, for Rapid I understand that you can load and import a sample and use it as a sound source? Like could I import a .wav to use as a sound source?

I was thinking these 2 could work well together: DUNE for the more VA, subtractive stuff, and Rapid for evolving wavetable sounds

Yes. I forgot. It's a full sampler. I haven't explored that area a lot, but definitely could use a .wav as a sound source.

I agree that they would work well together. I hear that Dune has a nice wt editor. So you could probably make wt in dune and use them in rapid.

Nice. Yeah can get pretty indepth with the WT editing in dune. Can load up and edit up to 200 individual waveforms

[buzz1]

Have you had any chance to look into cpu use yet jeff?

[jeffb01]

Have you had any chance to look into cpu use yet jeff?

Yes, I added it to the op - at the end. They all did pretty good except Pigments.

[buzz1]

Got it. That's really useful. Thanks.
Out of interest, Can I ask which of the processor models is your mini?

[jeffb01]

Got it. That's really useful. Thanks.
Out of interest, Can I ask which of the processor models is your mini?

Sure. 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 with 16 GB of RAM.

[Vortifex]

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[buzz1]

The surprise cpu synth seems to be Serum. No worse the the others really and clearly better than Pigments. Strange....

[jeffb01]

The surprise cpu synth seems to be Serum. No worse the the others really and clearly better than Pigments. Strange....

Yeah. The CPU test had lots of surprises. Thank you for the idea. Maybe I should have a control group in case all those synths are higher in CPU, but I don't think people agree on a low CPU synth. A lot of people say sylenth is a low CPU synth - does it have 6x unison? I could probably download the demo.

[S0lo]

The surprise cpu synth seems to be Serum. No worse the the others really and clearly better than Pigments. Strange....

Yeah. The CPU test had lots of surprises. Thank you for the idea. Maybe I should have a control group in case all those synths are higher in CPU, but I don't think people agree on a low CPU synth. A lot of people say sylenth is a low CPU synth - does it have 6x unison? I could probably download the demo.

O Sylenth would be hard to beat when it comes to CPU usage.

Yes more than 6x Unison.

[buzz1]

Yes, cpu use is as much about the density/complexity of a patch as it is about the plug in itself. That's why your test on a fairly even baseline was useful.

[buzz1]

The surprise cpu synth seems to be Serum. No worse the the others really and clearly better than Pigments. Strange....

Yeah. The CPU test had lots of surprises. Thank you for the idea. Maybe I should have a control group in case all those synths are higher in CPU, but I don't think people agree on a low CPU synth. A lot of people say sylenth is a low CPU synth - does it have 6x unison? I could probably download the demo.

O Sylenth would be hard to beat when it comes to CPU usage.

Yes more than 6x Unison.

Thing is there are two different levels of unison. Either just osc waveforms with Sylenth and others or entire patches on ,say, Massive x. I imagine the latter is the more cpu intensive.

[perpetual3]

The surprise cpu synth seems to be Serum. No worse the the others really and clearly better than Pigments. Strange....

Yeah. The CPU test had lots of surprises. Thank you for the idea. Maybe I should have a control group in case all those synths are higher in CPU, but I don't think people agree on a low CPU synth. A lot of people say sylenth is a low CPU synth - does it have 6x unison? I could probably download the demo.

O Sylenth would be hard to beat when it comes to CPU usage.

Yes more than 6x Unison.

Thing is there are two different levels of unison. Either just osc waveforms with Sylenth and others or entire patches on ,say, Massive x. I imagine the latter is the more cpu intensive.

MX uses AVX, so the CPU hit is much less intensive.

[jeffb01]

The surprise cpu synth seems to be Serum. No worse the the others really and clearly better than Pigments. Strange....

Yeah. The CPU test had lots of surprises. Thank you for the idea. Maybe I should have a control group in case all those synths are higher in CPU, but I don't think people agree on a low CPU synth. A lot of people say sylenth is a low CPU synth - does it have 6x unison? I could probably download the demo.

O Sylenth would be hard to beat when it comes to CPU usage.

Yes more than 6x Unison.

Thing is there are two different levels of unison. Either just osc waveforms with Sylenth and others or entire patches on ,say, Massive x. I imagine the latter is the more cpu intensive.

Really? I would think the osc one would use more cpu because if you had two oscs going, it would be two unisons. That's why I used just one oscillator - I figured it would be more even that way. Any developers have insight?

edit for perpetual3: that AVX seems to really help - as long as your machine can run it.

[JoeCat]

Just wanted to say - this is a very useful thread.
And kudos to Fathom's post.