Massive X - the thread

[perpetual3]

That’s it? The write-up at CDM also mentioned Unisono...

Yeah that's it. Unisono can be used instead of unison if you want to sound fancy but it still means one and only thing: unison. The reason why you might meet every now and then "unisono" is because it was used in Germany where lot of the classical tradition stems from. For example, in some European countries (such as Germany, Finland, Russia), we still use "H" in musical notation instead of "B" (not everywhere though, just mostly in classical circles) and Bb is instead just B. Why? Because Germany and very conservative conservatories.

This is what CDM says about “unisono:”

“The Voice page. You can also find some possibilities messing about with Noise Restart, Oscillator Restart, Spread and Engine Reset – think serious sound design with phasing. Combine that with the various oscillator types and modes and poly/mono/unison modes, and a really wild option called Unisono (for unique, analog-ish drifts and detunes)”

Peter Kirn seems to make it sound like a big deal.

[Functional]

Peter Kirn seems to make it sound like a big deal.

Do you see an "unisono" option there? Because I don't see it. But, I can tell you why he wrote that: because the beta version of Massive had "Unisono" in place of "Unison". When he was writing all of that, he was dealing with the software that still didn't have the finished nomenclature.

[perpetual3]

Peter Kirn seems to make it sound like a big deal.

Do you see an "unisono" option there? Because I don't see it. But, I can tell you why he wrote that: because the beta version of Massive had "Unisono" in place of "Unison". When he was writing all of that, he was dealing with the software that still didn't have the finished nomenclature.

Aha. Explains it.

[Functional]

Aha. Explains it.

Here's a video with the beta version:

The exact time signature shows that particular voicing page

[JoeCat]

Was trying to remember the one place I’ve seen the term “unisono” and it’s NI’s Razor - there’s a “unisono noise” reverb effect.

[perpetual3]

Was trying to remember the one place I’ve seen the term “unisono” and it’s NI’s Razor - there’s a “unisono noise” reverb effect.

Ha! I never noticed it was “unisono.”

[Functional]

Well now you both know: it's a fancy way of saying unison. It does not mean a particular type of unison or anything like that, just literally unison and that's it. Disappointing, I know. But agreed, the unison engine in Massive X is awesome although individual osc unison would have been nice.

I like Omnisphere better in terms of unison, not only for individual oscs but it has more adjustments. But again, Omnisphere costs twice as much as Massive X and has one of the worst UI's because it's crammed so full of all kind of stuff. 99% of the times, it's impossible to just open up a preset and nearly instantly figure out what's going on.

[realtrance]

I often forget to think about Pigments alongside MX. Though both wavetable high-quality synths, they feel quite different in use.

Pigments has more of a construction kit feel (not a bad thing, just a different thing) when swapping around wave tables, filters, assigning modulations.

In a lot of ways, Pigments rivals MX for modulation options.

But MX, because of the interface, ends up surprisingly more coherent to work with, no matter the similarities/differences in features.

I actually think MX would lose some of its distinctness if the interface got more complicated.

While the Pigments interface does push you in the direction of thinking about all the components of a patch independently, it does provide more animated feedback on what’s going on, both during patching and play.

The sound of the two synths is quite different; MX has a brighter, more in your face sound. Pigments has a more classic/vintage sound, appropriately, since a lot of the analogue modeling filter design is pulled from Arturia’s vintage synth emulations.

[realtrance]

p.s. Unisono is, I believe, Italian, like a lot of classical music terminology (soprano, mezzo, forte, sforzando, tempo, legato, accelerando, pizzicato, dolce, rubato, etc.). No biggie, just part of the history and heritage.

[Functional]

p.s. Unisono is, I believe, Italian, like a lot of classical music terminology (soprano, mezzo, forte, sforzando, tempo, legato, accelerando, pizzicato, dolce, rubato, etc.). No biggie, just part of the history and heritage.

I did think of this option too and "sono" does indeed sound like Italian. I checked the etymology and you're correct, it is Italian, perhaps the Germans adopted it from there.

[pixel85]

p.s. Unisono is, I believe, Italian, like a lot of classical music terminology (soprano, mezzo, forte, sforzando, tempo, legato, accelerando, pizzicato, dolce, rubato, etc.). No biggie, just part of the history and heritage.

This. In my previous post I wrote unisono because it's just a remnant from music classes in school

[Daru925]

Massive 1 has unisono as well.

[Functional]

So Massive X is an upgrade from Massive after all: it upgraded the nomenclature.

[perfumer]

p.s. Unisono is, I believe, Italian, like a lot of classical music terminology (soprano, mezzo, forte, sforzando, tempo, legato, accelerando, pizzicato, dolce, rubato, etc.). No biggie, just part of the history and heritage.

This. In my previous post I wrote unisono because it's just a remnant from music classes in school

UNISONIDO

[realtrance]

Staccato!