New Ryzens and DAWBench.
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- KVRian
- 666 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
as most ppl using DAWs use other things than huge amount of Kontakt libs to create sounds I wouldnt say to ppl to stay away from AMD.
I understand if you mainly use Kontakt you should get what is best for that. As reported AMD TR still works fine with Kontakt, its just not as efficient as it is working with "realtime calculation"?
And AMDs TR are much better than Intel on that side. Atleast at latencies at 128 or above.
Where did you read about CCX design being the cause of the Kontakt/memory limits?
As games also have had issues, which are not really showing in all of todays benchmarks on youtube with 3000 series, I stay hopeful.
I understand if you mainly use Kontakt you should get what is best for that. As reported AMD TR still works fine with Kontakt, its just not as efficient as it is working with "realtime calculation"?
And AMDs TR are much better than Intel on that side. Atleast at latencies at 128 or above.
Where did you read about CCX design being the cause of the Kontakt/memory limits?
As games also have had issues, which are not really showing in all of todays benchmarks on youtube with 3000 series, I stay hopeful.
- KVRian
- 700 posts since 19 Jan, 2008
He's just spreading this on all AMD oriented threads and he just assumed so you could consider it as spam.
I get that some people are fanboys, but that doesn't do anyone any good.
The gaming benchmarks place it on the same level with Intel, but for multithread workloads, AMD is way ahead and without taking price into account, right now, AMD is the better choice if you are gaming and doing other stuff too, like video editing. When you put price into balance too, it's really obvious what to choose. I'm really curious what the daw results will be.
I get that some people are fanboys, but that doesn't do anyone any good.
The gaming benchmarks place it on the same level with Intel, but for multithread workloads, AMD is way ahead and without taking price into account, right now, AMD is the better choice if you are gaming and doing other stuff too, like video editing. When you put price into balance too, it's really obvious what to choose. I'm really curious what the daw results will be.
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
As you said, some people are fanboys..
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ZentralmassivSound ZentralmassivSound https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=344121
- KVRian
- 762 posts since 13 Dec, 2014 from Germany
This sounds like an important thing in general. Realtime playback is going to dropout once only one core fails to calculate its stuff in time, be it because memory access wasn't fast enough or be it because calculations were to heavy. So, dozens of cores won't save us from this, something to keep in mind.
- KVRian
- 1104 posts since 31 Aug, 2004
And this is the pointZentralmassivSound wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:38 amThis sounds like an important thing in general. Realtime playback is going to dropout once only one core fails to calculate its stuff in time, be it because memory access wasn't fast enough or be it because calculations were to heavy. So, dozens of cores won't save us from this, something to keep in mind.
- KVRAF
- 5805 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
About memory allocation and similar issues
"A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig."
- KVRAF
- 5805 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
Yes, this is the point with the crappy Intel i5-8400 with only six cores/six threads. Kaine was answering to my question about the very bad scaling in performance of that Intel processor.poshook wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:20 amAnd this is the pointZentralmassivSound wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:38 amThis sounds like an important thing in general. Realtime playback is going to dropout once only one core fails to calculate its stuff in time, be it because memory access wasn't fast enough or be it because calculations were to heavy. So, dozens of cores won't save us from this, something to keep in mind.
"A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig."
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
May update could explain random crashes I'm getting recently, pretty much every day
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
- KVRAF
- 1604 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia
There is a new chipset driver released: https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets ... t-am4/x470DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:03 am May update could explain random crashes I'm getting recently, pretty much every day
It's easy if you know how
- KVRAF
- 7137 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
It's way less stable than 1809 and 1803, certainly.DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:03 amMay update could explain random crashes I'm getting recently, pretty much every day
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
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- KVRAF
- 1819 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
Very interesting read. 3900X at higher buffers does sound impressive. So does the 3700x infact.
On a side note, will be seeing an updated configuration for a 3XS AMD system ie more than 32 gig ram as current and x570 motherboard options?? Oh and also Samsung Evo pro m.2 as a choice?
On a side note, will be seeing an updated configuration for a 3XS AMD system ie more than 32 gig ram as current and x570 motherboard options?? Oh and also Samsung Evo pro m.2 as a choice?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
Yes, absolutely. I was hoping to have this finished earlier in the week and specs already updated, but things didn't go as smoothly as I hoped. I'm not 100% happy with the tuf board, the DPC is higher than I prefer and whilst it got me through testing I'm not overly keen to start plugging in tons of extra hardware into it.
So, next week I'm doing some board testing and then will update the spec to reflect it. Given the results I plan to do a few different models, they are clearly going to be popular for a while!
So, next week I'm doing some board testing and then will update the spec to reflect it. Given the results I plan to do a few different models, they are clearly going to be popular for a while!