KVR Audio

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:45 pm

When are Harmor, Sytrus and Edison coming to Mac?

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:45 pm

Image-Line wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:43 am
jonljacobi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:17 am The thread from hell.
There is only one thing worse than being talked about...

LOL. True, true.

whannel · Post by **whannel** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:57 pm

Bizarre how developer's releases and decisions become businesses analysis projects for some people around here so quickly, we're going the same way as soccer - people solely talking management and finance models rather than the beautiful game.

Anyway, hope Gol is still working hard on something wild as a consultant even. FLEX is fun, fun is good, looking forward to any editor that could ever be released for sale. Then again when witnessing releases lately maybe not the way they are accepted...

Do people still use Google, all I see are streamfuls of links on social media, can't imagine a use for it. Image-Line are playing this down further still I'm certain; there's over 1,000,000 forum members, some devs are doing well to have 1/10th of that.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:09 pm

Fl studio is still lacking when it comes to internal midi routing , sure you can control a plugin by a midi plugin by selecting the input port , but not the channel .
Didn't this used to be possible in the past ?
Let's say loomer architect (powerhouse of a midi modular framework ) , I can control 16 independent instruments all from 1 architectvst instance and record/print the midi output on every channel .
In fl studio I only have the option to select the input port of the destination plugin , not the channel

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:16 pm

Image-Line wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:10 pm
Orbit-50 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:27 pmI wish there were some kind of biography or something that I could read, then I would be able to fully understand the why, then he wouldn't seem like just some disfigured random wacko guy who's sole existence is to annoy the crap out of these two companies and anybody who supports them.
This really is a lesson for companies in customer relations and exposing customers to developers. Who naturally, think and speak another language.

Background

This case multiplied by the gol factor. He had a very clear vision of what he was trying to achieve and would bluntly tell a customer they were stupid for wanting to see audio recording live preview on the Playlist for example. Why? Because the peak meters were moving and clearly show the audio was being received (that sort of thing).

Also would be nice to see clip gain impact on the amplitude of the drawn waveform in the playlist, as with Pro Tools. Thought I'd throw that in there.

GCD mentioned zoom on sample level in the playlist (as with Edison) which would also be good.

Incidently, Edison is easily the best audio editor I've used to prepare audio files for sampler use, regardless as to whichever sampler you're using for playback. And the functionality of Convolver isn't talked about enough - amazing work.

But indeed...

Now I wonder how much Edward's own searches are influencing the search results. Are you really doing as well as you think you are - or are your company statistics being enhanced purely by Edward's obsession?

Maybe Geno Samuel could address this once he's done with Chris Chan.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:05 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:09 pm Fl studio is still lacking when it comes to internal midi routing , sure you can control a plugin by a midi plugin by selecting the input port , but not the channel .
Didn't this used to be possible in the past ?
Let's say loomer architect (powerhouse of a midi modular framework ) , I can control 16 independent instruments all from 1 architectvst instance and record/print the midi output on every channel .
In fl studio I only have the option to select the input port of the destination plugin , not the channel

This is true - midi also sucks in FL Studio in many ways. What also infuriates me to no end is that FL Studio does not pass midi cc messages through to plugins by default. This means that things like Pitch Bend and mod wheel control does not work automatically in plugins. That's actually another topic Gol did not understand at all why it's annoying.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:11 pm

But why cannot any other daw have such a fluid, speedy and easy piano roll? It feels and handles so bad in other daws.... like 20fps and fl studio 120fps.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Caine123 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:11 pm But why cannot any other daw have such a fluid, speedy and easy piano roll? It feels and handles so bad in other daws.... like 20fps and fl studio 120fps.

Maybe because other DAW's are used by people who can actually play instruments and read music notation?

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:29 pm

robotmonkey wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:21 pm
Caine123 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:11 pm But why cannot any other daw have such a fluid, speedy and easy piano roll? It feels and handles so bad in other daws.... like 20fps and fl studio 120fps.
Maybe because other DAW's are used by people who can actually play instruments and read music notation?

This is no reason to have bad piano rolls.... real musicians dont need a daw at all either way they play live smart aleck

reggie1979 · Post by **reggie1979** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:49 pm

Ah, the evils of music. Loops, midi, VI's, it's all cheating

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:46 pm

So you're saying it's used by bitter people who make no money in music nor does anybody want to listen to them play they're trombone?

robotmonkey wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:21 pm
Caine123 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:11 pm But why cannot any other daw have such a fluid, speedy and easy piano roll? It feels and handles so bad in other daws.... like 20fps and fl studio 120fps.
Maybe because other DAW's are used by people who can actually play instruments and read music notation?

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:09 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:09 pm Fl studio is still lacking when it comes to internal midi routing , sure you can control a plugin by a midi plugin by selecting the input port , but not the channel .
Didn't this used to be possible in the past ?
Let's say loomer architect (powerhouse of a midi modular framework ) , I can control 16 independent instruments all from 1 architectvst instance and record/print the midi output on every channel .
In fl studio I only have the option to select the input port of the destination plugin , not the channel

When VFX (voice effects) Color Mapper is used in Patcher, up to 16 independent generators/instruments (or groups of generators) may be controlled from the 16 note colors of the Piano roll.

- https://www.image-line.com/support/flst ... Mapper.htm
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it's working nicely, do u need something different?

ahamm>

A voice port is conceptually similar to a MIDI channel except that it is limited to note data including note related properties (Pan, Velocity, Mod X, Mod Y & Fine Pitch).

good to know it

Trancit · Post by **Trancit** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:27 pm

robotmonkey wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:21 pm Maybe because other DAW's are used by people who can actually play instruments and read music notation?

I think you would be astonished how many of the most famous producers are actually clicking their notes in because they cannot play keyboard...

And what serves this for people who are genius on guitar, brass/woodwind instruments, violins etc...

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:37 pm

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:58 pm

xbitz wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:09 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:09 pm Fl studio is still lacking when it comes to internal midi routing , sure you can control a plugin by a midi plugin by selecting the input port , but not the channel .
Didn't this used to be possible in the past ?
Let's say loomer architect (powerhouse of a midi modular framework ) , I can control 16 independent instruments all from 1 architectvst instance and record/print the midi output on every channel .
In fl studio I only have the option to select the input port of the destination plugin , not the channel

When VFX (voice effects) Color Mapper is used in Patcher, up to 16 independent generators/instruments (or groups of generators) may be controlled from the 16 note colors of the Piano roll.
- https://www.image-line.com/support/flst ... Mapper.htm
--
it's working nicely, do u need something different?

ahamm>
A voice port is conceptually similar to a MIDI channel except that it is limited to note data including note related properties (Pan, Velocity, Mod X, Mod Y & Fine Pitch).
good to know it

i was about to chime in , in support of 'gentleclockdivider' , as this has been a long-standing
flaw ( imho ) in FLS midi routing , when i saw your post ...

this is new to me ... i guess i'm not keeping up as well as i thought i was ...
this is a viable option i can work with ; i would still like to see this addressed at
the wrapper level , at some point ...

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