KVR Audio

krabbencutter · Post by **krabbencutter** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:25 am

I kid you not!

https://youtu.be/5OG4jPpnokg

The Abbey Road Studio 3 plugin brings the acoustic environment of the legendary Abbey Road Studio 3 control room to your headphones, so you can always trust the production and mixing decisions you are making.

https://www.waves.com/plugins/abbey-road-studio-3

and on a side note:

Nx Virtual Mix Room is now SoundGrid-compatible and supported in all SoundGrid hosts

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:27 am

so it's basically NX with a custom skin?

Reefius · Post by **Reefius** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 am

For a second I thought the girl in this video's thumbnail was bald

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uEcub9QfY

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:34 am

If (and when) the Abbey Road studio 3/ controll room isn’t usually (ever) in my use, why should I have my monitoring headphones set to that environment?

krabbencutter · Post by **krabbencutter** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:35 am

Because a theoretically ideal virtual mixing environment (Waves NX) wasn't enough, and because they had already modeled all the gear from Abbey Road Studios, Waves decided to model the god damn studio itself. I had to check my calendar twice to be sure its not April anymore.
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Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:36 am

Harry_HH wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:34 am If (and when) the Abbey Road studio 3/ controll room isn’t usually (ever) in my use, why should I have my monitoring headphones set to that environment?

presumably because it may be better than whatever environment you're currently listening in.

krabbencutter · Post by **krabbencutter** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:37 am

Harry_HH wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:34 am If (and when) the Abbey Road studio 3/ controll room isn’t usually (ever) in my use, why should I have my monitoring headphones set to that environment?

Because Beatles, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Amy Winehouse, Kanye West, Frank Ocean, Lady Gaga, and Florence + the Machine! And now stop asking questions!

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:58 am

Burillo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:36 am
Harry_HH wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:34 am If (and when) the Abbey Road studio 3/ controll room isn’t usually (ever) in my use, why should I have my monitoring headphones set to that environment?
presumably because it may be better than whatever environment you're currently listening in.

Most of the current major project studios use parallel good headphones and treated room in recording, mixing and mastering.
If you record your stuff in totally different environment, and then move the whole mix/master to the generated AR studio 3 monitoring environment, I doubt that it will improve the end result.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:01 am

i don't think Waves is aiming at "major project studios" here.

perfumer · Post by **perfumer** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:17 am

So it's an IR reverb with extra gimmicks? And who the f**k is Abbey Road? f**k off, morons!

lwj · Post by **lwj** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:23 am

my old bedroom sounds better..

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mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:24 am

Well, I have not tried it yet and at the moment just assume that this is what it is doing, but simulating speaker crossfeed in a headphone based surround setup would be useful. I am not aware of any other tool doing that in 5.1 and 7.1. There is Goodhertz Can Opener for crossfeed simulation of stereo speakers systems and a few other equivalent tools but that is pretty much it. Yes, NX does give you a theoretically perfect surround sound image in your headphones but that is not the way people experience surround sound in reality. NX always sounded a bit artificial to me. I‘m going to approach this with an open mind as I do see potential value. Will try it later. If you are only doing stereo it most likely does not give you anything new though.

Digivolt · Post by **Digivolt** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:41 am

Burillo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:36 am presumably because it may be better than whatever environment you're currently listening in.

Wouldn't you need to use Sonarworks or Tone Boosters Morphit though because the frequency response of your cans is going to ruin the intended Abbey Road studio simulation unless you flatten that response first ?

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:45 am

Digivolt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:41 am
Burillo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:36 am presumably because it may be better than whatever environment you're currently listening in.
Wouldn't you need to use Sonarworks or Tone Boosters Morphit though because the frequency response of your cans is going to ruin the intended Abbey Road studio simulation unless you flatten that response first ?

It does have a few headphone corrections included. And you can add Sonarworks or Morphit. But you will obviously never get the actual studio sound. People who obsess about this are missing the point imho.

Digivolt · Post by **Digivolt** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:50 am

mgw38 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:45 am But you will obviously never get the actual studio sound.

If they're trying to make a plug that simulates a certain studio sound, but fails to deliver that certain sound, then it's kind of redundant no ?

I already use Sonarworks+Goodhertz which do a good enough job to simulate a generic studio, why would I want to move to Waves slightly better generic studio sound ? If it was an accurate simulation of Abbey Roads studio then I could understand the appeal as you'd be getting the sound the pro's get but you're saying you won't get the sound, so what is the point ?

NEW: Waves modeled a frickin Studio - Abbey Road Studio 3