Why so little respect for the synthetic "instruments" we're creating?
- KVRist
- 338 posts since 27 Jul, 2004 from Outer Bongolia
I’m not into club/dance music at all. I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.Vectorman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:05 pmYou could start listing artists who are the bigger names in club genres right now and that would probably be my answer for most of them too. "Who?" But then I've never really been into club/dance music as you are clearly not so much into progressive/conceptual rock.Ed A. wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:55 amSteven who?Vectorman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:32 amI guess the pic is useful for illustrative purposes, but I don't think Asia had much do to with the decline of prog, since prog's heyday was already largely past by the time they arrived on the scene in 1982. Asia really leaned more towards pop than prog despite its members' histories.
(Interestingly, despite all the talk of prog being a dead genre, Steven Wilson has somehow managed to have two gold records and a #3 album in the UK in the last few years, becoming a multi-millionaire by releasing albums full of...progressive rock.)
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
For it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105878 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
radiohead?Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:07 pmFor it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Have they ever been called prog?vurt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pmradiohead?Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:07 pmFor it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
- KVRist
- 338 posts since 27 Jul, 2004 from Outer Bongolia
Good point.Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:07 pmFor it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
- KVRAF
- 4433 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
i thought we were talking about music?vurt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pmradiohead?Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:07 pmFor it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
- KVRist
- 338 posts since 27 Jul, 2004 from Outer Bongolia
I’m a Radiohead fan (at least from OK Computer on) and I wouldn’t consider them prog at all.Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:12 pmHave they ever been called prog?vurt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pmradiohead?Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:07 pmFor it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105878 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
dunno, not sure where else they could be put though really? they're hardly straight rock even if some of their singles head that way.Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:12 pmHave they ever been called prog?vurt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pmradiohead?Forgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:07 pmFor it to be progressive, it has to show progress over what came before - that was the point of using the term 'progressive' in the late 60s/early 70s. Nothing called 'prog' now is a progression from before - it's just the same stuff rehashed.Ed A. wrote:I was a proghead back in the seventies, but I couldn’t care less about “modern” prog. IMO, prog peaked forty-five years ago.
"post-rock" seems to be less electronic for the most part and more instrumental overall, so im not sure they fit there?
i could be wrong, just came to mind as a rock band doing something different.
but i dont really read music publications any more so dont know who gets called what.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Prog Rock had a very distinctive format. When you heard it, you knew what it was.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105878 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 7796 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Prog Rock was also called classical rock (not to be confused with classic rock, which was still the blues based pentatonic thing worn thin.)
They specifically wanted to add elements, idioms and motifs of the masters. Where Gentle Giant differed was in saying "we'll see your classical and raise you our baroque". Which more or less made them a musician's musician band and not so much for the masses.
They specifically wanted to add elements, idioms and motifs of the masters. Where Gentle Giant differed was in saying "we'll see your classical and raise you our baroque". Which more or less made them a musician's musician band and not so much for the masses.
- KVRist
- 338 posts since 27 Jul, 2004 from Outer Bongolia
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- addled muppet weed
- 105878 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
classic!