AMD Ryzen 3rd gen. ZEN 2 processors for audio PC

[sempondr]

So it looks like, in practice, none of the mITX B450 and X470 boards will be able to handle the higher-end CPUs.

Overclocking may be problematic, but "handle" they will, in most cases.

[Ben H]

So right now Ryzen CPUs have the better price/performance ratio across all fields for audio!

Price is not the issue for me, performance is...
And it looks as though Intel STILL OUTPERFORMS the latest generation Ryzens.

Oh well, better luck next time AMD.

[sempondr]

And it looks as though Intel STILL OUTPERFORMS the latest generation Ryzens.

Oh wow, Caps Lock, you must be right then.
Seriously tough, did you actually look at the charts?

[Ben H]

And it looks as though Intel STILL OUTPERFORMS the latest generation Ryzens.

Oh wow, Caps Lock, you must be right then.
Seriously tough, did you actually look at the charts?

Yep.
The 3900x gets close, but not quite. The other 2 are closer to half the performance.

But I mean, hey, at least the Ryzen is cheaper, right?

[Passing Bye]

3600 is no brainer for me, it seems that performs as good as i7-9700K, which leaves all those same price range i5's in dust, amazing times.

[fedexnman]

3600 is no brainer for me, it seems that performs as good as i7-9700K, which leaves all those same price range i5's in dust, amazing times.

Yeah , 3600 that's what I think I'll do my next build with . Haven't really decided yet though .

[Scotty]

And it looks as though Intel STILL OUTPERFORMS the latest generation Ryzens.

Oh wow, Caps Lock, you must be right then.
Seriously tough, did you actually look at the charts?

Yep.
The 3900x gets close, but not quite. The other 2 are closer to half the performance.

But I mean, hey, at least the Ryzen is cheaper, right?

There are two charts to consider here... One is the SawDSP testing where the 12 Core AMD is extremely close (within the margin of error) to the $2000 I9 9960X = Clear win on that test for that that specific use-case scenario for AMD especially given how good the AMD 12 core is across all buffers settings on this test.

In my application SawDSP is more closely representative of my workflow.

In the Polyphonic Kontakt test AMD 3900 doesn't do as well. But it is the 3950x that I am waiting on.

When the 3950x is released at 512 buffers - if we extrapolate - we should see a score there around 3400 which is very respectable ... giving 75% of the performance of the $2000 Intel 9960x at about 40% of the price. At 256 buffers we should see about 70% of the performance of the $2000 Intel 9960x at about 40% of the price on that Kontakt specific test. Again very respectable.

If money were no object I'd buy the $2000 9960x... but money does matter and the $3950x will do the job especially given how I develop tracks in my studio. For pure DSP it is a no brainer. For more memory loaded tasks with heavy sample content for orchestral work someone may be better off with the Intel 9960x perhaps if they actually need 4060 voices.

Personally I don't do a lot of Konakt high polyphony voice counts.

AMD 3950x for serious consideration here once the 3950x appears and we confirm that there are no surprises in its performance.

[Roman Wisniak]

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X rules the world...

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

[Freaqpeak]

So right now Ryzen CPUs have the better price/performance ratio across all fields for audio!

Its your money .. if you want to add 1500 dollars on a few % extra.. Even if I had that money to waste, I still would not buy it. For that money you can get TWO Ryzen 3900x systems and use VI...

A 2800 dollar CPU competes with sub 500 dollar CPUs. Thats a MAJOR achievement on AMDs side. Also last years AMD TR 2990 wins by far at 256 smple latency...

Also if you do compression or calculations and not only audio ... ... AMD wins.

[Obsolete317542]

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[Passing Bye]

i5-9600k = 6 cores 6 threads
i7-9700k = 8 cores 8 threads
Ryzen 5 3600 = 6 cores 12 threads

[Scotty]

i5-9600k = 6 cores 6 threads
i7-9700k = 8 cores 8 threads
Ryzen 5 3600 = 6 cores 12 threads

Indeed that AMD 3600 is fantastic value.

[Passing Bye]

Indeed that AMD 3600 is fantastic value.

Absolutely, all of them in general, really great times and hope for even more competitive market in the future.

[VitaminD]

3600 is no brainer for me, it seems that performs as good as i7-9700K, which leaves all those same price range i5's in dust, amazing times.

I am wondering about those i5 scores though, I think something went wrong. The i5 has 6 cores, the i7 has 8 cores. With everything else being equal, these tests show the i7 to be 50% to 300% faster than the i5. Something doesn't compute there, one would expect the i7 to be only 33% faster, as Sean's previous round of DAW Bench showed.

He explained that in the article in text amongst all the colorful images:

"With news over the past 12 months of security concerns and various performance affecting patches that have since followed, I’ve set up a new test bench where the Windows 10 build being used is the current 1903 with all drivers being freshly installed. Also given all these changes I’ve benched a number of the Intel chips in this round of testing, with both of the Z390 and X299 boards being fully updated Asus Prime boards.

On top of that reinstall and due to exceeding the benchmarking overhead in the last round with the largest available chips, I’ve made a few modifications to the standard DAWBench tests this time as I suspect that I run the risk of easily surpassing the tests in their default forms. "

[SiliconDeath]

I'm waiting for the 3950x , because maybe it will be 25-30% better than 3900x (it kinda has to be, for amd to be able to sell it at 850$ price). If you multiply the cpubenchmark number of 3900x with 1.25 , you get a very high number.

I'm basing this theory on the fact, that there's big gap between 3700x/3800x and 3900x performance, even though they're from same architecture. Those extra 4 cores are proving to be valuable.