Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

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SLiC
KVRAF
3802 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:03 am

it pretty much sums it up for me that some people think having little picture of their VSTs is more important than having a fast-intelligent pop up browser. If you have a lot of plug ins (I do) then Bitwig’s solution is by the the best at quickly finding what you need from plug to preset with audition. I have Studio One and Cubase which both have little picture eye candy but I don’t use it, just takes up real estate and offers no workflow benefit.

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KVRian
805 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:14 am

Bitwig's browser is best thing ever!
Googly Smythe wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:39 am
Somedays it seems like we're not allowed to dislike anything.

Trancit
KVRAF
2254 posts since 27 Jul, 2004

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:00 am

SLiC wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:03 am
...I have Studio One and Cubase which both have little picture eye candy but I don’t use it, just takes up real estate and offers no workflow benefit. ...
+1... it´s the first thing I turn off...

The only part it makes sense for me is the Plugin Picker window of FLS...
But there again you´ve got the problems that having images in the Plugin Picker means having images in the browser too and in the browser it doesn´t serve anything than endless scrolling because of needing a lot of space...

Bitwig´s popup browser is really state of the art here... well done... :tu:

reggie1979
KVRian
1091 posts since 26 Nov, 2018

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:00 am

nostalgic wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:36 pm
reggie1979 wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:10 pm
Shame on you, you are saying that bitwig is plagiarizing live? For shame.
It's more like one of those weight loss commercials, Live being the before picture and Bitwig being the after. :)
:hihi:

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aMUSEd
KVRAF
31049 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:17 am

Passing Bye wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:14 am
Bitwig's browser is best thing ever!
The popup browser needs to be synchronised with the side browser though (or dockable) - it gets in the way when you have an instrument loaded, especially The Grid which I like to have full screen with the device bar closed, so I would prefer to browse using the sidebar, but it behaves differently with presets (ie they load a new instance when you click on them, they don't load the preset into the current instance, even with drag-drop onto the instrument)

machinesworking
KVRAF
1683 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:10 am

reggie1979 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:00 am
nostalgic wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:36 pm
reggie1979 wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:10 pm
Shame on you, you are saying that bitwig is plagiarizing live? For shame.
It's more like one of those weight loss commercials, Live being the before picture and Bitwig being the after. :)
:hihi:
ouch! :lol:

machinesworking
KVRAF
1683 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:23 am

I'm liking pretty much everything about Bitwig except two areas, controller compatibility and interconectivity with other DAWs etc. If it could do SysEx dumps, and ReWire I would have switched from Live years ago. I use DP10 a lot, probably not changing with any new DAW, considering I've owned or own Logic, Reason, ReNoise, Reaper, Live, and MPC2. Bitwig as a VSTi, or ReWire would be ideal, maybe DP adds Ableton Link? but I doubt it.

Winstontaneous
KVRAF
1610 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:43 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:17 am
Passing Bye wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:14 am
Bitwig's browser is best thing ever!
The popup browser needs to be synchronised with the side browser though (or dockable) - it gets in the way when you have an instrument loaded, especially The Grid which I like to have full screen with the device bar closed, so I would prefer to browse using the sidebar, but it behaves differently with presets (ie they load a new instance when you click on them, they don't load the preset into the current instance, even with drag-drop onto the instrument)
I agree, I owned Bitwig 1.x and the behavior of the popup browser when they introduced it was one of the things leading me to sell my license. Look forward to demoing v3 now that it's out, though.
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kdogg
KVRer
22 posts since 18 Nov, 2017

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:58 pm

I’m a fan boy and want to support these devs as much as possible, it’s not expensive in my mind considering how expensive software used to be (Logic 6 was 1k and Space Designer was $300). I just finished a tune for a game that had 300 tracks and tons of Kontakt and Massive X’s In the session. No other DAW could pull this off natively without the CPU screeching to a halt, no Logic / Ableton / Cubase. Try loading 30 instances of Massive X in any of those DAWs and you’ll see, Bitwig can handle it no problem because of the Suspend Plug In when Silent feature, no CPU is used if nothing is passing through. It’s so brilliant.

Love the browser, hybrid tracks, modulation, routing, tabbed projects, and now the grid - we’ve got it too good now in my mind. Using Logic feels so clunky now and Ableton’s GUI is just downright dull, and has none of the features that I want, Bitwig does. I also think Bitwig’s synths and Sampler are amazing, the synths sound fat and thick.

Harms
KVRer
4 posts since 2 Apr, 2019

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:22 pm

Bitwig Studio 3.0 downloaded fine for me, and offered to install, but after authenticating installation no change appears to result. I'll poke at it more tomorrow.
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[edit: next day]
I used command-line installation and it worked fine.
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Kinh
KVRian
1236 posts since 26 Aug, 2012

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:05 am

what the hell are you jokers on about?

Reefius
KVRian
716 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Belgium

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:41 am

Been playing a bit with the demo (my license only goes up to 2.3) and I can't figure out how to make an LFO global in the grid instead of per voice.

Edit: nevermind, figured it out.

Passing Bye
KVRian
805 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:06 am

kdogg wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:58 pm
Using Logic feels so clunky now
Sincerely using anything else now feels clunky...
Googly Smythe wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:39 am
Somedays it seems like we're not allowed to dislike anything.

Caine123
KVRAF
5831 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:13 am

If they make fl studios piano roll obsolete then yes this is my go to but sadly still a clunky piano roll
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KVRian
805 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Re: Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:35 am

Bitwig is geared towards performers mainly, FL is what anyone who want full pencil-in experience should use.
Googly Smythe wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:39 am
Somedays it seems like we're not allowed to dislike anything.

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