The problem with Waveform... at least on the Mac... it is crash city.
Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review
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- KVRAF
- 4505 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
^^^ yepp but at least the last version got a crash protection system which can reload the project pretty much exactly where you were (and finally has groups too, and can MIDI stretch clips, can groove quantize clips, has chord track has ghost clips, retrospective record etc. etc. )
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"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
The problem with most other host is, that a plug-in can crash it. Not so with Bitwig, and crash recovery is also there in case it happens...
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I had issues with one plugin, Jamstix 3, but smooth sailing since I ditched it, and setting the program to run as low rez.
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- KVRAF
- 4505 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
^^^ simple tried to draw automation (add a point to it) to a modulated a macro control and it says goodbye and no crash protection can help here ... game over man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8bKA9Cg9k
seems Waveform has been created for non-modulated users ... in BWS at least the unified-modulation system is rock solid ( FL Studio has a better workflow, Bitwig has better modulation framework )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8bKA9Cg9k
seems Waveform has been created for non-modulated users ... in BWS at least the unified-modulation system is rock solid ( FL Studio has a better workflow, Bitwig has better modulation framework )
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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Winstontaneous Winstontaneous https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98336
- KVRAF
- 2351 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
One of the reasons I left Bitwig 1.x was that in spite of this claim and the plugin sandboxing, plugins could trigger a total freeze needing force-quit, which is effectively the same as a crash in my book (and may not trigger a meaningful OS error report like an actual poof crash does). Maybe things are better in Bitwig Mac-land in v3?Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:51 pm The problem with most other host is, that a plug-in can crash it. Not so with Bitwig, and crash recovery is also there in case it happens...
- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Much better... And as the devs claim the Mac support is harder than Win/Linux it should be even much much better for all...
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Waveform. I've yet to have a crash on the PC, but the Mac, yes.
- KVRAF
- 25446 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I have not had a Bitwig crash in more than a year. Bitwig is the most stable DAW I have used.Winstontaneous wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:59 pmOne of the reasons I left Bitwig 1.x was that in spite of this claim and the plugin sandboxing, plugins could trigger a total freeze needing force-quit, which is effectively the same as a crash in my book (and may not trigger a meaningful OS error report like an actual poof crash does). Maybe things are better in Bitwig Mac-land in v3?Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:51 pm The problem with most other host is, that a plug-in can crash it. Not so with Bitwig, and crash recovery is also there in case it happens...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11185 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Same here, rock solid for me (win 10), I never even think about it.
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
It’s been a very long time since I’ve seen Bitwig crash and it never crashed often to begin with. I think since PortAudio, I haven’t seen one, though they do list them in release notes.
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- KVRAF
- 2303 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Every single article on MusicTech Review is a paid for ad. Have people really not figured this out yet?apoclypse wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:52 am I own Bitwig. I really do like it but no way does it deserver a 10 out of 10. Personally there are too many weird issues with eh UI, too many inconsistencies, and just plain missing features. So imo the "review" was either a paid for ad, or the reviewer never bothered to actually use the software to make music. Probably played around with Grid and called it a day. But then again its MusicTech and in general they are crap.
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
It’s nicely written, but it’s not a review. I won’t go so far as to say it’s a shill piece, but it sure reads like one.