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imagination wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:03 am it's the only way to attracted customers, that may not be able to afford upgrades? Such as, kids, teens and students just getting into the beatmaking game?
I'm 49 and have a well paid Civil Service career. However, I've also lived in Yorkshire for a long time.

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donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:44 am
imagination wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:03 am it's the only way to attracted customers, that may not be able to afford upgrades? Such as, kids, teens and students just getting into the beatmaking game?
I'm 49 and have a well paid Civil Service career. However, I've also lived in Yorkshire for a long time.
As a Civil Servant don’t you think you should have a better avatar.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

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v1o wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:13 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:44 am
imagination wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:03 am it's the only way to attracted customers, that may not be able to afford upgrades? Such as, kids, teens and students just getting into the beatmaking game?
I'm 49 and have a well paid Civil Service career. However, I've also lived in Yorkshire for a long time.
As a Civil Servant don’t you think you should have a better avatar.
Even government functionaries like a bit of cock.

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TrojakEW wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:38 am Based on your analogy it means that all free instruments and effects sucks because they are free :dog: .
Well, the saying "you do get what you pay for" tends to be generally true.
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robotmonkey wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am
TrojakEW wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:38 am Based on your analogy it means that all free instruments and effects sucks because they are free :dog: .
Well, the saying "you do get what you pay for" tends to be generally true.
Only applies to physical goods, not software. You only need to compare what you get if you buy the $199 version of FL Studio, to what you get in (single) plugins for $199 elsewhere.
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Image-Line wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:46 am
robotmonkey wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am
TrojakEW wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:38 am Based on your analogy it means that all free instruments and effects sucks because they are free :dog: .
Well, the saying "you do get what you pay for" tends to be generally true.
Only applies to physical goods, not software. You only need to compare what you get if you buy the $199 version of FL Studio, to what you get in (single) plugins for $199 elsewhere.
Or check out Limiter No6: A really good yet completely free limiter. I'm sure people can list amazing freeware all day.

donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:17 am
v1o wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:13 am
donkey tugger wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:44 am
imagination wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:03 am it's the only way to attracted customers, that may not be able to afford upgrades? Such as, kids, teens and students just getting into the beatmaking game?
I'm 49 and have a well paid Civil Service career. However, I've also lived in Yorkshire for a long time.
As a Civil Servant don’t you think you should have a better avatar.
Even government functionaries like a bit of cock.
I don't doubt it.

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Image-Line wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:32 am
Jblkid95 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:37 pm I almost bought it, thank god I tried the trial. IL almost pulled a fast one....What a shame... who puts out releases like this. this is the era we're in now? sheesh
Welcome to KVR, I see you are on your 3rd post.

Hardly pulling a "fast one" when we provide a time and feature unlimited trial version for this very purpose. Test and see if it meets your needs.

No other DAW on the planet can be used as a plugin. So, yes it's only us making releases like this AFAIK.

You seem a little vehement over the issue. Do we know each other from somewhere else?

Regards Scott
Yeah it’s my third post. We all gotta start somewhere. You can’t tell me your beta team missed the fact that when you minimize FL and bring it back up the whole screen is filled with black boxes. I’m sorry for the harsh words on my previous posts, but i don’t like when companies advertise buggy features knowingly. Logic has been doing this to us for years, so we are very hip to this type of sales pitch. There will be so many people who will pay for this, and get hit with that bug immediately, rendering that one feature your touting useless. I see the trend of companies giving out free updates but using their customers as beta testers. I don’t think it will end well. No I don’t know you, Personally. Does it matter? I’m just trying to use your product, but never have I encountered such a blatant bug. Minimize?The only work around is to quit logic and FL and remember not to minimize.
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robotmonkey wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am
TrojakEW wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:38 am Based on your analogy it means that all free instruments and effects sucks because they are free :dog: .
Well, the saying "you do get what you pay for" tends to be generally true.
If you don't know how to use your "tools" properly, then it doesn't matter if get it for free or you paid millions for it. We shouldn't blame others for our own inability.

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Jblkid95 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:30 pm
You can’t tell me your beta team missed the fact that when you minimize FL and bring it back up the whole screen is filled with black boxes. I’m sorry for the harsh words on my previous posts, but i don’t like when companies advertise buggy features knowingly. There will be so many people who will pay for this, and get hit with that bug immediately, rendering that one feature your touting useless. I see the trend of companies giving out free updates but using their customers as beta testers. I don’t think it will end well. No I don’t know you, Personally. Does it matter? I’m just trying to use your product, but never have I encountered such a blatant bug. Minimize?The only work around is to quit logic and FL and remember not to minimize.
Maybe it only happens to you or a very limited amount of people and it works when they tested it? I don't see how that would be advertising knowingly buggy features.

The whole idea with FL Studio is that you can try it for free for an unlimited time before you buy it. Even if people pay for it. They just can file a bug report and it will be fixed, for free, in a newer version.

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I've dropped a quick workflow video to youtube, and as I see my only problem is still the plugin window management

project organization has been solved with Channel Filtering + track assignments, don't have problem with routing audio/MIDI in Patcher, things in Patcher can be automated/modulated nicely from outside using different Fruity Controllers (independent channel looping solved nicely the note triggered envelopes) so everything would be nice and happy just have to constantly opening/closing those different plugin windows, is there any kind of suggestion for this, will be some solution someday, I would still vote to the Logic like screensets: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH24713?lo ... cale=en_US but maybe somebody has a better idea :help: :-D
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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Image-Line wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:56 am
Daru925 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:07 am I still remember how amazing fruityloops 3.56 was to me. So much new stuff.
2019 is sad in comparison.
Why sad? - FL Studio 20.5 vs 3.56 the experience, there is only more of everything.

Or are you confusing the excitement and unlimited possibilities of being 14 with the reality and responsibilities of being 31 ? :)
Yeah take a shit on em! dont let them get away with talking shit FL Studio!

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I really lose track of all the sock puppet accounts here.

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chk071 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:01 pm I really lose track of all the sock puppet accounts here.
Dude, these FL Studio threads are freaking ridiculous with the radical weirdos that show up every single time. I'm not even talking about Edward because it's obvious that he's chosen his life's path and we all already know that.
It's one thing to post dislikes about certain features and stuff and I get that part, but literally it's like Image-Line attracts characters that have this complete and utter personal disdain for them. What the freak is that all about?

They've done a very good job at getting thousands upon thousands of musicians, music producers, big and small, up and running in the music game for a fraction of the cost of the competition. Not to mention also, that there are a ton of features and concepts in FL-Studio that quite frankly can't be matched by their competition. I'm not going to say FL-Studio is the best music production software known to man because that's all subjective, but none of the others are perfect either. They all have their flaws, but FL-Studio seems to get the most ridicule out of all of them.

As a disclaimer, I'm not an Image-Line fanboi or a heavy FL-Studio user, (probably because it's the only thing in my life I would need "one on one" tutoring to learn how to use it fluently :hihi: ) but I will tell you this, they have done nothing to deserve this crap. Their mission statement and their values, have served tons of people very well for many years and I'm sure there are a lot of people who do actually appreciate it, but there seems to be a armada of anti Image-Line goons that will forever hold a grudge against them for God knows whatever reason. It's just sad, because I believe that they should be able to walk the streets freely without having bottles hurled at them every single time.

Maybe there should be some lengthy pre-screening process for people entering FL-Studio threads? :shrug: I would love to see the day, that one of these FL-Studio threads, does not turn into a "Malcontents vs Image-Line" civil law suite.

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This thread was off the rails PAGES ago. I'm of two minds, I hate hearing about updates and having that ragged on like it's a bad thing (I've had mine since version 4) but at the same time I'm tired of people accusing each other of stuff based on some KVR'ian bullshit.

Scott is wrong. FL has ALWAYS had rotten customer relations with it's customers. They are belligerent and demeaning towards people. GOL was an ass. A-moral jerks that think his BS was refreshing can go back to watching A-moral crap with people being bullied and picked on and getting off on it.

It would be nice if they just locked this one so that I'd miss it.

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