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herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:28 am Wags, I don't have the patience to wade through this whole thread, but has anyone mentioned Taxi?

Taxi is an independent A&R outfit that provides listings that you can send recordings in response to. For 300$ a year (at least that used to be the fee) they provide critiques of your work, and will send pieces they think meet their standards to the people who put up the listings.

These listings come from movie and television producers looking for soundtrack or trailer content, talent agents looking for performing artists or songs for their stable of performers, ad agencies looking for music to place in radio or tv commercials and so on.

I found it disheartening, because they have zero interest in people who are trying to create their own sound. They want you to sound like other people and will tell in excruciating detail exactly which works they want you to slavishly imitate, but they aren't a scam. The fact is that people who are good at sounding exactly like other more famous people are what the powers that be are looking for these days.

Anyway, good luck.

https://www.taxi.com/
Taxi sounds interesting. $300 is a little steep for me but if it provides a valuable service, it may be worth it.

Right now I'm in the process of putting together a game plan for all this. It's not going to happen overnight and I'm in no big hurry. I just want to make sure I do this right.

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herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:45 am
ariston wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:13 am
tehlord wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:48 am
ariston wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:12 am Sure, you had your Stock Aitken Watermans, and your Frank Farians, and Trevor Horns.... but there were so many styles,
Are you really putting Trevor Horn in the same category as SAW? Really? REALLY?!??!?! :o

Ummmm.... sorry, the name came to me automatically. To be precise: Trevor Horn established a synthetic, in-your-face aesthetic that I grew to dislike over time. Many tried to emulate him, which isn't his fault, but that didn't help. No, he's not in the same category artistic-wise, definitely not.
I think it's interesting that when Trevor Horn joined Yes for an album it actually sounded kind of like Yes, but when he produced a Yes album it sounded like......well.....not Yes.
Well, for me, Yes stopped sounding like Yes with Owner Of A Lonely Heart and whatever album that came off of. Don't remember.

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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:47 am
herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:45 am
ariston wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:13 am
tehlord wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:48 am
ariston wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:12 am Sure, you had your Stock Aitken Watermans, and your Frank Farians, and Trevor Horns.... but there were so many styles,
Are you really putting Trevor Horn in the same category as SAW? Really? REALLY?!??!?! :o

Ummmm.... sorry, the name came to me automatically. To be precise: Trevor Horn established a synthetic, in-your-face aesthetic that I grew to dislike over time. Many tried to emulate him, which isn't his fault, but that didn't help. No, he's not in the same category artistic-wise, definitely not.
I think it's interesting that when Trevor Horn joined Yes for an album it actually sounded kind of like Yes, but when he produced a Yes album it sounded like......well.....not Yes.
Well, for me, Yes stopped sounding like Yes with Owner Of A Lonely Heart and whatever album that came off of. Don't remember.
Yep, that's the album. I still feel a bit of PTSD when I remember it. God awful.

And for all of the text box therapists out there, my use of PTSD here is A FIGURE OF SPEECH.

:hihi:

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Wags, if you go to Taxi.com, you can see all of their listings without paying. You only need to pay to submit to them. I suggest you read through a few pages of them carefully. They are very honest about what they want, so you can see if it's worth your time before giving them any cash.

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I first heard Yes in 1972 and fell in love with them immediately. Their radical change in the 80s was when I stopped listening to them.

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herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:54 am Wags, if you go to Taxi.com, you can see all of their listings without paying. You only need to pay to submit to them. I suggest you read through a few pages of them carefully. They are very honest about what they want, so you can see if it's worth your time before giving them any cash.
I'm definitely going to do that. I may even write to them with some questions. Thanks.

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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am I first heard Yes in 1972 and fell in love with them immediately. Their radical change in the 80s was when I stopped listening to them.
Sadly, I didn't listen to them until 78 or so, after all their best work was behind them. I was so excited when they re-formed and I bought that 9021000000000 album with alacrity.......sorry I can't recall the experience without being triggered.


:hihi:

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herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:07 am
wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am I first heard Yes in 1972 and fell in love with them immediately. Their radical change in the 80s was when I stopped listening to them.
Sadly, I didn't listen to them until 78 or so, after all their best work was behind them. I was so excited when they re-formed and I bought that 9021000000000 album with alacrity.......sorry I can't recall the experience without being triggered.


:hihi:
Jon Anderson did a solo album with Vangelis that was really good. You might want to check it out.

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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am
herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:54 am Wags, if you go to Taxi.com, you can see all of their listings without paying. You only need to pay to submit to them. I suggest you read through a few pages of them carefully. They are very honest about what they want, so you can see if it's worth your time before giving them any cash.
I'm definitely going to do that. I may even write to them with some questions. Thanks.
Check out SongTradr as well. They too look for very specific song styles as well as letting put your music up for people to choose for their projects.

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JJ_Jettflow wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:11 am
wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am
herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:54 am Wags, if you go to Taxi.com, you can see all of their listings without paying. You only need to pay to submit to them. I suggest you read through a few pages of them carefully. They are very honest about what they want, so you can see if it's worth your time before giving them any cash.
I'm definitely going to do that. I may even write to them with some questions. Thanks.
Check out SongTradr as well. They too look for very specific song styles as well as letting put your music up for people to choose for their projects.
Will do. Thanks. Of course I can only afford to sign up with so many services.

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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:08 am
herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:07 am
wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am I first heard Yes in 1972 and fell in love with them immediately. Their radical change in the 80s was when I stopped listening to them.
Sadly, I didn't listen to them until 78 or so, after all their best work was behind them. I was so excited when they re-formed and I bought that 9021000000000 album with alacrity.......sorry I can't recall the experience without being triggered.


:hihi:
Jon Anderson did a solo album with Vangelis that was really good. You might want to check it out.
I have, not traumatizing, but not exciting for me either. The only solo effort of Jon Anderson I was fond of was Olias. I heard it for the first time while under the influence of Orange Sunshine. I don't go in much for drug induced profundity. It's mostly self-deluded crap when it's not outright nonsense. But that experience, sitting in a candlelit room with Olias playing and no one talking, was pretty cool. Until someone wanted to play pool and turned on the fluorescent lights. Ow.

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did someone say drug induced profundity?
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herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:51 am Yes
No.

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ah, duality!
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donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:33 am
herodotus wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:51 am Yes
No.
Maybe

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