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drdriller · Post by **drdriller** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:55 pm

perpetual3 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:25 pm Why remove Massive X? It’s a WT synth.

trolling on the lack of interested that this synth generates

fortycoats · Post by **fortycoats** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:41 pm

Ten pages and no mention of Wolfgang Palm or the great sounding PPG collection

This thread would not exist if he hadn’t invented wavetable synthesis 40 years ago!!!

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:11 am

fortycoats wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:41 pm Ten pages and no mention of Wolfgang Palm or the great sounding PPG collection

This thread would not exist if he hadn’t invented wavetable synthesis 40 years ago!!!

True, but not true. Someone else would have invented shortly afterwards.

fortycoats · Post by **fortycoats** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:33 am

How close were you?

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:59 am

Nowhere near. Just a reflection on inventions in general, of which I do have some association.

fortycoats · Post by **fortycoats** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:22 am

There were a few people doing stuff in that area back then. Apologies for the bad joke, long day here.

I happened upon this thread after playing with PPG infinite and was going to add my vote. Was just a bit shocked that nobody had mentioned it!

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:16 pm

I vote for listing all available wave table synths that exist in the subject... No, I am not going to read the whole thread to see if all have been mentioned already...

Biome_Digital · Post by **Biome_Digital** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 pm

drdriller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:55 pm
perpetual3 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:25 pm Why remove Massive X? It’s a WT synth.
trolling on the lack of interested that this synth generates

Massive x really does sound good and the GUI is pretty good too. Once they release an update with the obvious things left out (envelope curves!) it is going to be one of the top synths!

drdriller · Post by **drdriller** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:30 am

Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 pm Massive x really does sound good and the GUI is pretty good too. Once they release an update with the obvious things left out (envelope curves!) it is going to be one of the top synths!

too many good synth everywhere to give this one a second try when it will be patched

Smapti · Post by **Smapti** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:00 pm

drdriller wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:30 am
Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 pm Massive x really does sound good and the GUI is pretty good too. Once they release an update with the obvious things left out (envelope curves!) it is going to be one of the top synths!
too many good synth everywhere to give this one a second try when it will be patched

Every synth gets patches. By this logic we shouldn't have any synths at all in this thread.

Also, Massive X is working just fine as is. It will certainly have updates down the road, but it's a full-featured & excellent instrument already.

JPQ · Post by **JPQ** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:24 pm

What about ilter mode comparisons what modes are available.

goldenlotus12 · Post by **goldenlotus12** » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:47 pm

Wolfgang Palm synths are great and far more creative out of the box than anything else
Serum is basically the standard
Pigments is awesome super fast and easy to use
Massive X workflow is not up to competitors

rj0 · Post by **rj0** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:56 pm

Kubik! You left out Kubik!

OK, just kidding, but not that long ago (OK, maybe it was that long ago ...) there wasn't much else going on in wavetable synths other than PPG. Kubik seemed like the wave of the future, ... except the main interest was in 'analog' (hey, good too!), and wavetable synths seemed to be fading fringe interests. Awesome to see that they've come mainstream.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:10 pm

Smapti wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:00 pm
drdriller wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:30 am
Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 pm Massive x really does sound good and the GUI is pretty good too. Once they release an update with the obvious things left out (envelope curves!) it is going to be one of the top synths!
too many good synth everywhere to give this one a second try when it will be patched
Every synth gets patches. By this logic we shouldn't have any synths at all in this thread.

Also, Massive X is working just fine as is. It will certainly have updates down the road, but it's a full-featured & excellent instrument already.

No developer is perfect. Even the saint Urs Heckman abandoned Uhbik X (a modular environment promised as an upcoming update). It happens. He made other updates. We moved on. It’s clear Massive X wasn’t quite the release they were hoping for. I could see waiting until some of the rough edges are smoothed, but to dismiss it forever? Silly.

biscuitdough · Post by **biscuitdough** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm

Just keeping track of synths people have mentioned they would like added to the initial comparison post:

Ableton Wavetable
Dune 3
Fathom
Halion
Hive 2
Predator 2
Synthmaster

Melda MPowersynth and Ocean Swift's new Enterprise may also be worth comparing. I'm not sure if any of the Waldorf stuff like Nave or Largo counts, or if it's more old-school wavetable scanning a la Prophet VS rather than what people think of as a wavetable synth in the plugin world.

Wavetable Blowout: Massive X vs Avenger vs Serum vs Icarus vs Pigments...