KVR Audio

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:56 pm

vurt wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:50 pm
EnGee wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:48 pm
vurt wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:23 pm
EnGee wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:13 pm Who cares if famous producers are using it or not!
if you only eat what the famous producers eat,you too will be a famous producer.
peas. endorsed by real producers!
I thought they eat beans because their farts are masterpiece!
see, that's why you're not famous. you been eating the wrong thing.

Reefius · Post by **Reefius** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:59 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:53 pm wouldnt know, i dont own or use either of them. did you just make a very stupid assumption?

So basically you're just here to troll.

whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:53 pm you're right, nothing under 'cheapest replacement power supply for a Buchla' either. goshdarn you're good at this.

Point proven, only here to troll.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:10 pm

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:59 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:53 pm wouldnt know, i dont own or use either of them. did you just make a very stupid assumption?
So basically you're just here to troll.

Ah, yes, of course. Your complete inability to deliver a meaningful assertion with any cogent grounding in logic or facts is some sort of legitimate comment, but any response is 'fanboys' or 'trolling'. How amazingly convenient for you.
When you can prove that any generic search for anything to do with any aspect of music production gives any insight into the potential userbase of a specific audio tool, come on back to me about who's the one trolling.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:12 pm

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:23 pm Even when specifically searching for Bitwig content, it's hard to find anything about the more uncommon Grid modules. I'm talking about stuff like the Math and Logic modules.

Seriously? The Grid has been out for about 5 minutes!

I am kind of glad that when I learnt guitar/keys/music 30 years ago there was no internet, some how everyone seemed happier and more productive!

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:16 pm

Reefius wrote:"It's of course much easier to shout 'troll' when you can't win an argument."

how ironic.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:16 pm

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:23 pmEven when specifically searching for Bitwig content, it's hard to find anything about the more uncommon Grid modules. I'm talking about stuff like the Math and Logic modules.

If you need math & logic modules explained to you, then you probably shouldn't touch modular systems...

Also, there's INTERACTIVE help for everything in the Grid, if you dare trying anyway:

If you want, there's already a paid course already available:
https://ask.video/course/bitwig-studio- ... d-explored

And free - not less comprehensive - tutorials for The Grid are slowly popping up:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... jprtmP6fB4
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... XlHFqgzCDi

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:23 pm

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:23 pmEven when specifically searching for Bitwig content, it's hard to find anything about the more uncommon Grid modules. I'm talking about stuff like the Math and Logic modules.

Having just been released, it seems rather unlikely for there to be much if any 3rd party info about those modules. The best info is the impressive Grid help system. That plus the built-in scopes in the inspector plus the capacity to put a scope on any signal and it is pretty easy to figure out what those modules do.

Reefius · Post by **Reefius** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:26 pm

SLiC wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:12 pm Seriously? The Grid has been out for about 5 minutes!

A meaningful explanation in the manual would be a good start, instead of those oneliners for each Grid module.

Some things in the Grid just don't make any sense. How come a step sequencer module doesn't even have a gate output for triggering an envelope?

To me it just looks like an overengineered mess, compared to for example VCVrack and Voltage Modular.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:34 pm

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:26 pmTo me it just looks like an overengineered mess, compared to for example VCVrack and Voltage Modular.

Key word being "to me"

Perhaps see the episodes #23/24 here:
https://ask.video/video/bitwig-studio-3 ... components

The Grid simply tries to decompose the more traditional fixed-function Eurorack modules into components, so that they can be used for more than one purpose. If you stop for a second in your anger and think about what constitutes a sequencer, you'll quickly understand what you need to use

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:48 pm

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:43 pm Why is it that Bitwig and FL Studio both have a horde of fanboys who attack everyone who dares to say anything negative about their favorite DAW?

Instead I often see horde of FL haters attacks ppl in the thread and end up making thread over 20 pages

Reefius · Post by **Reefius** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:48 pm

tooneba wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:48 pm
Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:43 pm Why is it that Bitwig and FL Studio both have a horde of fanboys who attack everyone who dares to say anything negative about their favorite DAW?

Instead I often see horde of FL haters attacks ppl in the thread and end up making thread over 20 pages

Nah, that's just Edward

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:39 pm

I want to try the latest with Ubuntu Studio (now tell me how many famous "producers" have tried that!? Only Cardi B? That's enough for me then bitch!).

I think Diva and RePro can also be run in Linux. It would be great to have such setup just in case Trump becomes a dictator and prevent the world from using Microsoft and Apple products

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:43 am

Reefius wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:26 pmSome things in the Grid just don't make any sense. How come a step sequencer module doesn't even have a gate output for triggering an envelope?

There is no step sequencer module...

and any signal can trigger an Envelope. It doesn't need to have a gate output.

Reefius · Post by **Reefius** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:25 am

pdxindy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:43 am There is no step sequencer module...

Yes there is:

steps.jpg

And it doesn't properly trigger an envelope generator, you need an additional Gates module to do that.

I've been experimenting yesterday and I'm starting to see the point of the decomposed modules, it gives you greater flexibility. It looks like some of the basic synth building modules have been simplified (like an envelope generator does not need a separate amp), while the more complex stuff got even more complex

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:45 am

Reefius wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:25 am
pdxindy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:43 am There is no step sequencer module...
Yes there is:
steps.jpg

That's not a step sequencer in a sense that it generates musical notes, with gates, pitches, velocity, etc. It generates bi- or unipolar values. You CAN use the output as pitches or velocity, but you'll have to provide dates from elsewhere and there's a whole group of modules for that.

EDIT: I see you edited your post when I was writing mine. Good you finally see this.

Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review