Is the Melda MTurboComp the last Compressor you will need?

[CrystalWizard]

If i had the money and i needed a better compressor i’d buy DMG. I’m well set with the 5 or 6 i have though. I don’t often track external instruments and i’m not heavy into beats so i use compression sparingly.

[nichttuntun]

nichttuntun: Thank you!

I that in general nothing is perfect for everyone, and that's how it should be, since we are not clones, yet

You´re welcome

[nichttuntun]

I'd be very interested in seeing the other plugs you compared with it in your tier rankings.

Sure,

DMG Compassion
FabFilter ProC2
FL Studio stock plugins
MModernCompressor
MTurboComp
NI Supercharger
NI Solid Bus Comp & Solid Dynamics
Sonalksis SV-315 mk2
Studio One stock plugins
TDR Kotelnikov
Toneboosters Compressor
Waves RComp
Vengeance FX Vol 1 compressor
Xhip Effects Compressor

I think I missed out 3 or 4 other plugins. And I can't remember which one but it didn't have a ratio or threshold knob, but a graph of the transfer which needed to be tweaked instead Also not quite sure if u-He Presswerk was already available back then or if I tested it shortly afterwards. Also after figuring out I'd stick with the S1 stock plugins for the most time, I took a look at a hardware Shadow Hills from a studio closure as well as some "emulations" of the classics from UAD, Waves, Analog Obsession, Melda, NI...

Most performant were the Studio One stock plugins followed by Xhip Compressor. Workflow and visual feedback wise FF ProC2 won. NI Supercharger brought some most generic useful character imo and Waves RComp did on certain material like drums. MTurboComp had much to tweak, so had DMG Compassion. Toneboosters Compressor was pretty clean.

Thank you for the information. What did you do that Melda was weak? Really interested in that.

I pimped a kick with MeldaTurboEQ and the Melda-Distressor and it already kicks ass...a lot...than I routed the complete Drum/Percussion-Section to a subchannel and put MTurboComp onto the complete track-channel. I send-effect the whole drumparts individually like snare, HH, BD/ Bongos and so on through an effects channel with is fed by MTurboReverb and there I put another compressor on the track to manipulate the reverb behaviour...the drums sound outerworldly present in a very thick mix. But they sound very thick and cool already with just that one compressor on the whole drum-subchannel. I really don´t know what you did and I am still interested in knowing what "misses" for you.

[nichttuntun]

3) top notch because there is nothing in comparison you can tweak that much under the hood.

Except DMG Compassion https://www.dmgaudio.com/products_compassion.php

That indeed looks good and deep. But as a having Melda-Comp plus some very good but limited other single Comp-Plugins from other Devs, I don´t feel the need for something else. And I can´t make out where the great advantage over the Melda one really should be. I read the DMG manual. If I woulnd´t be a Meldacompletebundle-owner I maybe would be interested.

In the end the thread asked -> ...last Compressor you will "need"?
I don´t need another when looking exactely onto the true meaning of "needs".

P.S.
Got to say in direct comparison... if I only would own MTC, I wouldn't miss anything else. Thing is when all the shiny advertisement comes flying in for me mega plugins I recollect myself, load a project or testing drums or whatnot and try out Melda tools with MXXX. And nearly always find out I can go far beyond the single hyped plugins, without a single compromise and having top notch sounds quality plus high oversampling what's so important for plugins which saturate and distort. Plus all the modulation madness... And so I buy less and less new plugins from other devs.

[Notheorem729]

I think everyone is missing the big picture here. ...However, if I was looking for one compressor I could use for absolutely everything that allowed me to design my own compression styles I can't think of anything that could compare to this...

1) I can do such things in any modular environment and there are dozens of it availabe. Even simpler compressors allow for shaping the transfercurves or attack & release envelopes.
2) How often do you honestly sit down and think "I wish I could create my own compressor"? Haven't talked to a single musician that felt the need for it. And therefore I'd say take it for what it is, not what it might become - in the end it simply is a generic compressor with a couple presets in the first place, not an ultimate compressor building machine for which you definitely use it way too few.

I am a little confused by your response. First, you imply that it is trivial to replicate what MTurbocomp does... then you imply that the desire to do it is obscure. If you can replicate this in a modular environment without being a DSP engineer then I promise you that you are in the wrong profession. Especially if you can do it without it being ridiculously complicated to use. I would love to see your example of MTurbocomp built in a modular environment. Melda plugins are already difficult to use but you are using the only possible thing harder to use as an example for how easy it is to replace?

I also never said anything about my point of view being based on musicians. Musicians are far from the majority of audio plugin consumers. Besides, we are moving in a direction where the line are being blurred beyond recognition and you not knowing anyone interested in this is a better measure of your interests than the process itself. You are speaking from a very narrow perspective. Just because you don't see something as useful doesn't meant it has no value to anyone else. I literally know dozens of people who would love to be able to tweak the envelope followers, processors and saturators themself. Your post makes it seem that you haven't actually dug into mturbocomp at all because if you had you would know that it allows you to do far more than shape the transfer curve. With that being said... I do respect your opinion but you and I can never agree on it.

[xandde1]

MTurboComp is actually a great plugin. And it can easily be the only compressor you’ll need as it is really versatile.

[nichttuntun]

I think everyone is missing the big picture here. ...However, if I was looking for one compressor I could use for absolutely everything that allowed me to design my own compression styles I can't think of anything that could compare to this...

1) I can do such things in any modular environment and there are dozens of it availabe. Even simpler compressors allow for shaping the transfercurves or attack & release envelopes.
2) How often do you honestly sit down and think "I wish I could create my own compressor"? Haven't talked to a single musician that felt the need for it. And therefore I'd say take it for what it is, not what it might become - in the end it simply is a generic compressor with a couple presets in the first place, not an ultimate compressor building machine for which you definitely use it way too few.

I am a little confused by your response. First, you imply that it is trivial to replicate what MTurbocomp does... then you imply that the desire to do it is obscure. If you can replicate this in a modular environment without being a DSP engineer then I promise you that you are in the wrong profession. Especially if you can do it without it being ridiculously complicated to use. I would love to see your example of MTurbocomp built in a modular environment. Melda plugins are already difficult to use but you are using the only possible thing harder to use as an example for how easy it is to replace?

I also never said anything about my point of view being based on musicians. Musicians are far from the majority of audio plugin consumers. Besides, we are moving in a direction where the line are being blurred beyond recognition and you not knowing anyone interested in this is a better measure of your interests than the process itself. You are speaking from a very narrow perspective. Just because you don't see something as useful doesn't meant it has no value to anyone else. I literally know dozens of people who would love to be able to tweak the envelope followers, processors and saturators themself. Your post makes it seem that you haven't actually dug into mturbocomp at all because if you had you would know that it allows you to do far more than shape the transfer curve. With that being said... I do respect your opinion but you and I can never agree on it.

That's an interesting statement with a very differentiated opinion. I asked myself some similar questions. I do much appreciate that.

I am a musician and synth-head and I approached software like Cubase in the 90th to steer my samplers and synthesizers. I am only a "few years" into plugins now but love it and miss nothing. I still got many hardware synth nevertheless. I feel glad that I always was a programmer with synth, samplers and digital effect units since back in the days and used to fiddle deeply into engines.

That's one main reason why I appreciate Meldas approach to their fathomless mega tools like MTurbocomp, MTurboReverb or lately MSoundfactory and of course MXXX. They give non preset users everything to forfill all their wishes and far beyond.
Have joy and be sound

[9ice9]

In my opinion - this is really the only universal compressor on the market, there are so many settings in it that it even scares)

[plexuss]

In my opinion - this is really the only universal compressor on the market, there are so many settings in it that it even scares)

Repeating myself: DMG Compassion is more flexible and easier to use.

[nichttuntun]

In my opinion - this is really the only universal compressor on the market, there are so many settings in it that it even scares)

Repeating myself: DMG Compassion is equally complex and easier to use.

As stated before. Looks really good too. One is good another can be good too. I still don't understand what's so difficult using MTComp?

[plexuss]

In my opinion - this is really the only universal compressor on the market, there are so many settings in it that it even scares)

Repeating myself: DMG Compassion is equally complex and easier to use.

As stated before. Looks really good too. One is good another can be good too. I still don't understand what's so difficult using MTComp?

MTC isn't that complex. Take a look at Compassion, it is more complex and if you can learn the parameters it's more flexible than MTC.

[MeldaProduction]

plexuss: I'd hardly say Compassion gets even close to flexibility of MTurboComp, plus it has no sims of classis gear, but as I stated before, everyone is allowed to their opinions.

[Ah_Dziz]

It does a good 76 and I like it for things closer to limiting. I use it most inside big mxxx patches. If you are willing to dig I’m sure it can do most of the things that any other compressor can do. If you want quick results, the active presets work for a pretty wide range of things.
It’s really only a matter of whether or not you are one of the folks out there who just can’t stand the Melda gui.

I’m sure it could be your only compressor very easily but that would probably take a decent amount of work.

[plexuss]

plexuss: I'd hardly say Compassion gets even close to flexibility of MTurboComp, plus it has no sims of classis gear, but as I stated before, everyone is allowed to their opinions.

Ok, well now I know you are in an alternate reality. If you worked with Compassion you'd know that there are numerous parameters that affect the inner workings of dynamics algo, much beyond what is found in MTC.

For those of you wondering, it's easy enough to find out for yourself: run the demos and read the manuals and take a look a what you can do with each. If we are talking about being able to affect the dynamics algo based on user controllable parameters, Compassion has a lot more flexibility than MTC.

[MeldaProduction]

plexuss: I actually did. You know, you kinda started it by saying it is more versatile. So how about this: Attack time driven by an follower with some parameters, release time driven by another follower listening to sidechain. Just that, simple with modulators and I strongly doubt you could make that using Compassion. Not saying that this particular example makes much sense