reasons ssl compressor
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
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"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 12 May, 2011
https://www.reasonexperts.com/compressi ... eason.html
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Specifically:
The Attack is normally how fast a compressor kicks in. This is often determined by a duration in milliseconds. Or it is controlled by a setting called 'Knee'. Knee is the curve on how steep the compression kicks in. The steeper the curve, the faster the compressor kicks in. This is often referred as soft knee (slow curve) or hard knee (fast curve). In the SSL Mixer there is a setting called "Fast" (hard knee, 3ms attack time + 20dB gain reduction) and peak (instant attack).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 24 Apr, 2019
Thanks mate and great tutorial , whats the setting without clicking fast do you know cheersGoogly Smythe wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:49 pm https://www.reasonexperts.com/compressi ... eason.html
Specifically:The Attack is normally how fast a compressor kicks in. This is often determined by a duration in milliseconds. Or it is controlled by a setting called 'Knee'. Knee is the curve on how steep the compression kicks in. The steeper the curve, the faster the compressor kicks in. This is often referred as soft knee (slow curve) or hard knee (fast curve). In the SSL Mixer there is a setting called "Fast" (hard knee, 3ms attack time + 20dB gain reduction) and peak (instant attack).
- KVRAF
- 3811 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Millicent Australia
They don't say. Those SSL units are very much a suck it and see (or hear) experience. As far as I know, the DSP underneath is exactly the same as in the M-Class Comp so you can use that if you need to get more specific. The default seems to be an RMS mode which is softer overall. The default attack is slow so maybe out to 100ms. But remember that timings and compressors are a constantly sliding scale so the number on the knob is probably not what you get.

Benedict Roff-Marsh
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 24 Apr, 2019
Just the way ive been learning sidechain is with the ssl and id rather stay with that i may have to email them to find out they must knowBenedict wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:39 am They don't say. Those SSL units are very much a suck it and see (or hear) experience. As far as I know, the DSP underneath is exactly the same as in the M-Class Comp so you can use that if you need to get more specific. The default seems to be an RMS mode which is softer overall. The default attack is slow so maybe out to 100ms. But remember that timings and compressors are a constantly sliding scale so the number on the knob is probably not what you get.
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
Benedict speaking nonsense yet again.Benedict wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:39 am As far as I know, the DSP underneath is exactly the same as in the M-Class Comp so you can use that if you need to get more specific.
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Where exactly did you read info on "DSP underneath is exactly the same as in the M-Class Comp". That's false statement completely. Like literally complete bollocks.
First - M-Class Comp was released several years (more then five years) BEFORE their SSL channel strip in big mixer. It was their take (back then) on tackling mastering compression.
Second - you have to be that deaf to not hear obvious differences between what range M-Class Comp covers VS SSL Channel. Come on. Did you tried it?
- KVRAF
- 3811 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Millicent Australia
Don't expect a lot of response from them on this. You'd do better asking Selig on either Reason Talk or the Facebook Reason Users Group (run by Poohbear/Carly). If Selig doesn't know, no one knows.bunja1979 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:26 amJust the way ive been learning sidechain is with the ssl and id rather stay with that i may have to email them to find out they must knowBenedict wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:39 am They don't say. Those SSL units are very much a suck it and see (or hear) experience. As far as I know, the DSP underneath is exactly the same as in the M-Class Comp so you can use that if you need to get more specific. The default seems to be an RMS mode which is softer overall. The default attack is slow so maybe out to 100ms. But remember that timings and compressors are a constantly sliding scale so the number on the knob is probably not what you get.
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Again remember that numbers mean nothing in compression as everything is a perpetually sliding scale so knobs would be as useful if they read Less-More.
Really tho if doing Side-Chaining, start using the M-Class as that will do anything you need it to. Fast is around 3ms - Slow is about 80ms Attack. None of that matters though as it is your ears hearing/feeling the right results from your unique sound. There are no formulas in Mixing.
Benedict Roff-Marsh
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
@other posters: Props* to you for interpreting the OP’s message. You guys must have kids in order to understand what is really being asked.
* see what I did there
* see what I did there
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 12 May, 2011
According to what I quoted, the other attack time is instantaneous, ie 0 ms.bunja1979 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:24 pmThanks mate and great tutorial , whats the setting without clicking fast do you know cheersGoogly Smythe wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:49 pm https://www.reasonexperts.com/compressi ... eason.html
Specifically:... In the SSL Mixer there is a setting called "Fast" (hard knee, 3ms attack time + 20dB gain reduction) and peak (instant attack).
I should also add that I don't actually own, or use, Reason.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 24 Apr, 2019
If there only jokes that make u laugh there not really jokes my friendMushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:10 am @other posters: Props* to you for interpreting the OP’s message. You guys must have kids in order to understand what is really being asked.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 24 Apr, 2019
Ive tried to rejoin reasontalk but ive messed up my login email and they wont let me make more than one account so cant get back in thereBenedict wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:25 amDon't expect a lot of response from them on this. You'd do better asking Selig on either Reason Talk or the Facebook Reason Users Group (run by Poohbear/Carly). If Selig doesn't know, no one knows.bunja1979 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:26 amJust the way ive been learning sidechain is with the ssl and id rather stay with that i may have to email them to find out they must knowBenedict wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:39 am They don't say. Those SSL units are very much a suck it and see (or hear) experience. As far as I know, the DSP underneath is exactly the same as in the M-Class Comp so you can use that if you need to get more specific. The default seems to be an RMS mode which is softer overall. The default attack is slow so maybe out to 100ms. But remember that timings and compressors are a constantly sliding scale so the number on the knob is probably not what you get.
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Again remember that numbers mean nothing in compression as everything is a perpetually sliding scale so knobs would be as useful if they read Less-More.
Really tho if doing Side-Chaining, start using the M-Class as that will do anything you need it to. Fast is around 3ms - Slow is about 80ms Attack. None of that matters though as it is your ears hearing/feeling the right results from your unique sound. There are no formulas in Mixing.
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But ill try the facebook
You sure theres no formulas ?
Because i met a good teacher who had a bunch of settings he used on everything mostly and slightly tweaked it
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
To clarify the kid comment wasn’t a joke. I had zero idea what you were asking for in the OP. You asked for settings which to me implied you wanted a ratio or a time rather than a definition.bunja1979 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:14 amIf there only jokes that make u laugh there not really jokes my friendMushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:10 am @other posters: Props* to you for interpreting the OP’s message. You guys must have kids in order to understand what is really being asked.
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I was impressed with the other posters who were able to understand what you were really after.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 24 Apr, 2019
Maybe they use reasonMushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:29 amTo clarify the kid comment wasn’t a joke. I had zero idea what you were asking for in the OP. You asked for settings which to me implied you wanted a ratio or a time rather than a definition.bunja1979 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:14 amIf there only jokes that make u laugh there not really jokes my friendMushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:10 am @other posters: Props* to you for interpreting the OP’s message. You guys must have kids in order to understand what is really being asked.
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I was impressed with the other posters who were able to understand what you were really after.
