"Dark Horse" copyright infringement ruling

[mgw38]

Even aside from monetization, there are issues like this: "Flame claims Perry also destroyed his reputation in Christian music circles because he's now associated with the anti-Christian witchcraft and imagery that's present in her 'Dark Horse' music vid."

I know people who would pay extra for that to happen.

[McLilith]

As far as I'm concerned, this rapper single-handedly destroyed his own reputation by bringing this lawsuit!

[Forgotten]

As far as I'm concerned, this rapper single-handedly destroyed his own reputation by bringing this lawsuit!

The opposite might be true though - I think he was a nobody before this, but now he's got a lot of free press so it might help him make connections. Even if he loses when they appeal, he's a lot better known now than he was before.

[Ou_Tis]

"In 1 Corinthians 6:1-8, Paul reprimands church members who have filed lawsuits against each other. Their pettiness, suggests the apostle, lacks eternal foresight and discredits the testimony of the church. [...] Jesus advised his followers about how to carry themselves if they are the object of a suit: 'If someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well' (Matt. 5:40, NIV)."

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/20 ... 27.66.html

[McLilith]

In my eyes, he went from a neutral "nobody", to a disgusting "somebody". That's not an improvement.

I realize, a lot of folks won't care about the details of this lawsuit, and he might indeed make a few new fans, but I'll never be a fan. I do care about the details of the lawsuit. I believe his lawsuit was purely an illicit (and very un-Christian) money grab, made possible by a clueless jury and an inept legal system. His further claims that his "reputation" has been "destroyed" only serves to irritate me more. As far as I'm concerned, he's the equally irritating Christian Rap version of Kanye.

[vurt]

"In 1 Corinthians 6:1-8, Paul reprimands church members who have filed lawsuits against each other. Their pettiness, suggests the apostle, lacks eternal foresight and discredits the testimony of the church. [...] Jesus advised his followers about how to carry themselves if they are the object of a suit: 'If someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well' (Matt. 5:40, NIV)."

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/20 ... 27.66.html

the rap battles of corinth are legendary bro!

[Passing Bye]

What I am confused about is, don't these modern pop stars write songs with an army of songwriters that munch over the tune perfectly crafting it into a hit. You telling me 5 people all just swiped a Christian dudes song because they can't come up with anything between themselves?

They all add something, but more than often it's just ripping off something, building upon that and trying to get away with it, they are there for the money and they have no principles, always in need for something to impress clients and masses, so they do whatever it takes, it's pretty shady business from top to bottom.

[Digivolt]

I watched the Rick Beato vid and also this vid which sums it up pretty well



I think the blame lies more with the lawyers and the so called expert who as Adam says "convinced a jury that the idea of quarter notes descending in a minor scale from the 3rd degree originated in 2008"

Now time to get filing patents for all the music scales

[McLilith]

When both Adam Neely and Rick Beato can easily give clear, coherent, and extensive arguments for why this lawsuit is bogus, it's a sure sign the lawsuit is bogus. I would love for both Adam and Rick to be brought in as either consultants or expert witnesses for the legal appeal.

[acYm]

You telling me 5 people all just swiped a Christian dudes song because they can't come up with anything between themselves?

well, there was Dr. Luke involved. that guy sucks really really bad.
I should see more people trash talk that worthless doofus for fun around production circles than I do...
an absolute parasite.

[jochicago]

Seems to me it's time for a suit against the federal gov to change the rules on this. Like the recording artists association or someone else big could file a suit, the kind that makes it to the supreme court, to have the copyright laws updated to be more clear on this stuff.

And I think all musicians that think these types of rulings are wrong should go out of their way a bit to make themselves heard. Maybe write some letters or something. It's important that normal people are better informed. They hear about this stuff on the news and they don't know what's up. Journalists are trying to figure it out as they go. If the public was better prepared this type of stuff would be harder to get away with.

At the bare minimum everyone in the US should think that the Blurred Lines ruling was an outright fiasco and have scorn against the Marvin Gaye Estate. If not they'll sue again whoever is the next big summer hit. It's horrific that these cases are being won. It's even worse that the public opinion is split on it. We should be publicly booing these people to the bank.

[Unaspected]

Even aside from monetization, there are issues like this: "Flame claims Perry also destroyed his reputation in Christian music circles because he's now associated with the anti-Christian witchcraft and imagery that's present in her 'Dark Horse' music vid."

This kind of thing is so disconnected from reality that thinking anyone could believe such things is very hard to digest.

It blew my mind when I saw American Christians react to Marilyn Manson. I guess not much has changed.

I thought all those YouTube videos by channels like A Call For An Uprising were just run and followed by very unwell, paranoid people and trolls - not actual Christians. I thought it was a joke until I watched a little more and my brain started trying to drill a hole through my skull to get out.

My brain asked for power tools for Christmas but I just got it a JML multi-tool instead. Best it can do is to sandpaper its way out.

[mumpcake]

In my eyes, he went from a neutral "nobody", to a disgusting "somebody". That's not an improvement.
[snip]
I believe his lawsuit was purely an illicit (and very un-Christian) money grab, made possible by a clueless jury and an inept legal system. His further claims that his "reputation" has been "destroyed" only serves to irritate me more.

In the eyes of his potential audience, he went from a nobody to someone who is "standing up to the liberal elites who are oppressing Christianity". Everything you said that offends you will be seen by this group as a badge of honor if done in the name of Jesus. Even if he lost the case he still becomes a hero in that circle.

[telecode]

You telling me 5 people all just swiped a Christian dudes song because they can't come up with anything between themselves?

well, there was Dr. Luke involved. that guy sucks really really bad.
I should see more people trash talk that worthless doofus for fun around production circles than I do...
an absolute parasite.

Why? Because of the Kesha story? I remember him from whe he was a guitar player on SNL. He's a good player and knows how to play and read and write music. That's a helluva lot more going for him than a.lot of other peeps making music in pop world.

[Forgotten]

I thought all those YouTube videos by channels like A Call For An Uprising were just run and followed by very unwell, paranoid people and trolls - not actual Christians. I thought it was a joke until I watched a little more and my brain started trying to drill a hole through my skull to get out.

Religious Americans aren't capable of seeing the extreme fundamentalism they represent as they constantly redirected to the fundamentalism of other religions when the F word is mentioned.

When I came here (in 2003) I was pretty shocked at the reality of how extreme some people's religious beliefs are.