Ableton Live Lite: any good?

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Live 10 Intro has is limited to 16 tracks and 8 scenes. Lite is limited to 8 tracks.

I think either would be useful as a creative tool if you have another main DAW. I think the unique non-linear session view offers a feature that very few other DAWs have, so in that sense it makes a nice complement to traditional linear DAWs.

I started with Lite, but have Live 10 Standard now. I also have Studio One.
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Skupje wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:29 pm I had a Saffire 6, but it's slapped together..It's a bad deciscion to have a DAC emit two loud 0dbfs pops to an active monitor arrangement on power up and down. Everytime it shuts down it's like BANG!
I’ve heard different stories about the Indigos and the Sapphires. Usually it’s either a really good experience, or just a fair one. I’ve heard only good things about the Claretts and the Reds (way out of my budget, though). Focusrite is giving away a PA Focusrite Console plugin to their customers right now, which is pretty cool

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cptgone wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:30 am should I install Lite and give it a go
It's worth to try if it's for you. Personally I've installed/uninstalled it 3 times this year and burned my nerves with it :lol:

Some people make magic with it, I prefer Bitwig over Ableton.

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W23 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:41 pm Focusrite is giving away a PA Focusrite Console plugin to their customers right now, which is pretty cool
Only to those who own a Clarett, though.
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I have found that it's really useful for creating something new from old - chopping up pieces of recorded guitar (works particularly well for 'ambient' and 'noise' type sounds) and triggering them as clips and recording the results can give you some really different results from the source material.

From that perspective alone I think it's worth trying it out. I use Logic Pro for more conventional recording processes, but I use Live with a Novation LaunchPad to build new pieces with clips I've recorded myself (sometimes I just exports stems from Logic and cut them up in Live)

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W23 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:41 pm Focusrite is giving away a PA Focusrite Console plugin to their customers right now, which is pretty cool
You cant really buy it tho?

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Forgotten wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:57 pm From that perspective alone I think it's worth trying it out. I use Logic Pro for more conventional recording processes, but I use Live with a Novation LaunchPad to build new pieces with clips I've recorded myself (sometimes I just exports stems from Logic and cut them up in Live)
Think the recording signal routing is awesome in Ableton.. It used to be not so great in Logic for PC.

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So in live lite 10 there are no vst restrictions? Just the track count?

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reggie1979 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:53 pm So in live lite 10 there are no vst restrictions? Just the track count?
Yes, there are no VST restrictions in Live Lite 10, or 9 for that matter. The last version that restricted the number of VSTs you could use was Live Lite 8. Also, as of version 10.1, Lite can also use VST3 plugins.

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Another cool thing: Last time i registered a Ableton Live Lite 9, it automatically updated the serial to Live Lite 10, for free. :tu: Not sure if that will also happen when Live Lite 11 comes out, but, i at least 50% assume so.

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Its been said thousands of times - but the Beatles made Seargent Pepper using 8 tracks and overdubs.

Live Lite allows the export of a master or 8 individual tracks. A master can be re-imported for overdubbing without any loss of audio quality ( unlike tape record overdubbing which deteriorated with every overdub). You can record using VSTs or audio, or even outboard. Saving is allowed.

The only thing that restricts someone from re-creating Seargent peppers using Live Lite is hard work and talent.

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The Beatles didn't do electronic music though. And, a lot of electronic music nowadays is made with layers, and by making use of many of nowadays' DAW's feature. Just like the Beatles didn't record to a single track. ;)

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chk071 wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:50 am The Beatles didn't do electronic music though. And, a lot of electronic music nowadays is made with layers, and by making use of many of nowadays' DAW's feature. Just like the Beatles didn't record to a single track. ;)
Yeah, I always forget about electronic music and its need for zillions of tracks. EDM musicians talk about sounding "minimal" and then use 500 tracks to get that minimal sound.

The music of yesteryear could be achieved with a few guitars - drumkit - and an optional keyboard. Oh, and sometimes they threw in an orchestra to help it along. 1930s music used just one microphone and recorded to one mono track.1950s rock n roll music just needed 4 microphones and one mono track.

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dellboy wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:55 am
chk071 wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:50 am The Beatles didn't do electronic music though. And, a lot of electronic music nowadays is made with layers, and by making use of many of nowadays' DAW's feature. Just like the Beatles didn't record to a single track. ;)
Yeah, I always forget about electronic music and its need for zillions of tracks. EDM musicians talk about sounding "minimal" and then use 500 tracks to get that minimal sound.
:D

TBH, i already find the track count of Infected Mushroom crazy, with a hundred tracks per track, as they mentioned a couple of times... i guess they put every single drum sound on a single track, otherwise i wouldn't know how to get to so many tracks.

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chk071 wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:50 am The Beatles didn't do electronic music though. And, a lot of electronic music nowadays is made with layers, and by making use of many of nowadays' DAW's feature. Just like the Beatles didn't record to a single track. ;)
Pretty sure The Beatles would have acheived layers by bouncing, just the same as many of us who started off on 4-track Portastudio-type setups.

There's a lot to be said for having to commit to a bounce/resample. However, being able to use racks and resampling loops to single keys offer workarounds for more elaborate creations.

I'm definitely getting the urge to try and record an ep or album solely with Lite 10. Could be fun :tu:

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