Which companies have user-friendly copy protection schemes ?

[yellowmix]

Cool story I know

Shoot them an email, tell them your use case, refer them to this thread. The XLN installer is supposed to be a convenience and I've had good experience with their customer service.

[street spirit]

What is to be considered friendly here?

The question of questions. It will differ from person to person. That's why such lists are so absolutely pointless.

Iny my opinion, D16's C/R system is very good.

Now they just need to make the GUI resizable. Impossible to use the older FX on a modern day monitor.

[Denise.Audio]

Hi all, denise audio have no complicated licensing with our plugins, just a simple install and go be creative approach.

www.denise.io

Best
Joe

[Razzia]

Cool story I know

Shoot them an email, tell them your use case, refer them to this thread. The XLN installer is supposed to be a convenience and I've had good experience with their customer service.

Okay, I may just do that. I've never spoken to their support, Good to hear you've had pleasant experiences.

[soapmak3r]

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Hi all, denise audio have no complicated licensing with our plugins, just a simple install and go be creative approach.

www.denise.io (http://www.denise.io)

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Joe

I just bought your "Perfect Room" plugin after listening to some very impressive demos. I was surprised to find that there was no copy protection. I thought I had missed something.
I'll have to make a demonstration video and throw it up on youtube when I get a chance. I hadn't heard of your company before, and was really impressed by 'perfect room'.
Cheers!

[Denise.Audio]

Hi all, denise audio have no complicated licensing with our plugins, just a simple install and go be creative approach.

www.denise.io

Best
Joe

I just bought your "Perfect Room" plugin after listening to some very impressive demos. I was surprised to find that there was no copy protection. I thought I had missed something.
I'll have to make a demonstration video and throw it up on youtube when I get a chance. I hadn't heard of your company before, and was really impressed by 'perfect room'.
Cheers!

This is a real pleasure to hear, thank you and glad you you like the plugin. PLease let us know when you've made the demo video, we'd love to see it.

Best
Joe

[ZINO]

I have to say that there is a very legit and understandable reasons to know what sort of copy protection is used in different softwares..
.. this is an important topic and source of information.
I don't know if I should call it user-friendly, But I take a peaceful and relaxed breathing when I find companies with key file/serial based CP (without need to be tied to a machine that might fail or other very possible case), I love that and my investment will be there always.

Heartily agree! So which Companies would you buy Plug-ins from preferably ?


As far as the USB thing goes, USB drives are a good idea but they often fail. That ain't a problem but in Waves case I think you might be penalised because they should be transferred back to the 'Cloud' in order to be used again ? I may not be correct in this but it's what I heard.
I haven't heard this to be the case with Ilok so that shouldn't be a problem I hope ?!

Wit ilok you lose the "activation" when you either lose or break an ilok key or you wipe your hard disk or you mainboard breaks with soft (computer) activated license. You have to contact each developer of whom you lost an activation.
Same goes for elicenser afaik.

It seems that this is only true for lost/stolen keys

From

https://www.ilok.com/#!support/help/102 ... /102029704

For a broken iLok RMA, we are authorized by the software publishers to provide permanent replacement licenses for those that we recover from your broken iLok. Once we receive your broken iLok, we recover the licenses from it and deposit permanent replacement licenses in your account.

For a Lost/Stolen iLok RMA, if your iLok has Theft & Loss Coverage enabled, we replace your licenses. If the Lost/Stolen iLok did not have Theft & Loss Coverage, we are not authorized by the software companies to do the permanent license replacements. You would need to contact the software companies directly regarding getting replacements for the lost licenses.

[VariKusBrainZ]

www.meldaproduction.com

We now use licence files to activate our software. Each file contains information about the individual user to whom it is registered. There is no need for an Internet connection nor hardware dongle for activation. The usual way of activation is to drag & drop your licence file into the plugin you are activating.

[dermage]

I have to say that there is a very legit and understandable reasons to know what sort of copy protection is used in different softwares..
.. this is an important topic and source of information.
I don't know if I should call it user-friendly, But I take a peaceful and relaxed breathing when I find companies with key file/serial based CP (without need to be tied to a machine that might fail or other very possible case), I love that and my investment will be there always.

Heartily agree! So which Companies would you buy Plug-ins from preferably ?


As far as the USB thing goes, USB drives are a good idea but they often fail. That ain't a problem but in Waves case I think you might be penalised because they should be transferred back to the 'Cloud' in order to be used again ? I may not be correct in this but it's what I heard.
I haven't heard this to be the case with Ilok so that shouldn't be a problem I hope ?!

Wit ilok you lose the "activation" when you either lose or break an ilok key or you wipe your hard disk or you mainboard breaks with soft (computer) activated license. You have to contact each developer of whom you lost an activation.
Same goes for elicenser afaik.

It seems that this is only true for lost/stolen keys

From

https://www.ilok.com/#!support/help/102 ... /102029704

For a broken iLok RMA, we are authorized by the software publishers to provide permanent replacement licenses for those that we recover from your broken iLok. Once we receive your broken iLok, we recover the licenses from it and deposit permanent replacement licenses in your account.

For a Lost/Stolen iLok RMA, if your iLok has Theft & Loss Coverage enabled, we replace your licenses. If the Lost/Stolen iLok did not have Theft & Loss Coverage, we are not authorized by the software companies to do the permanent license replacements. You would need to contact the software companies directly regarding getting replacements for the lost licenses.

It is exactly as I said (leaving out the iLok insurance of course). If I say broken I mean, it is destroyed and they can't recover the licenses. Of course you can try to send it in.

But in case it was more or less your own fault (destroying, formatting hard disk etc.) You need to contact the developers to send you new activation in good will.
Pace won't do anything.

[midi_transmission]

What I find interesting in this copy protection discussion. Are there any information if complicated copy protection really helps the developer at all?

I can only speak for myself, but an annoying copy protection is only a reason not to buy something for me. I had bought a lot of high costs plugins when they had no annoying copy protection like limited online activations, always online, challenge and response or iLok etc.. I skip the whole Softube range or Soundtoys range for example just because of this. I searched and found alternatives products with user friendly copy protection and bought them instead. So in my case the respective developers even lost some sales.

Are there really so many pirates out there that actually buy software usually and where a possible crack is the deciding factor?

Just questions I ask myself. I have no idea about the numbers as a whole of course.

[midi_transmission]

As I've not seen them so far I want to add 'Black Rooster Audio', 'Fabfilter', 'Plogue', 'TBProAudio ' and 'Audiority' to this list user friendly copy protection list.

[ZINO]

I have to say that there is a very legit and understandable reasons to know what sort of copy protection is used in different softwares..
.. this is an important topic and source of information.
I don't know if I should call it user-friendly, But I take a peaceful and relaxed breathing when I find companies with key file/serial based CP (without need to be tied to a machine that might fail or other very possible case), I love that and my investment will be there always.

Heartily agree! So which Companies would you buy Plug-ins from preferably ?


As far as the USB thing goes, USB drives are a good idea but they often fail. That ain't a problem but in Waves case I think you might be penalised because they should be transferred back to the 'Cloud' in order to be used again ? I may not be correct in this but it's what I heard.
I haven't heard this to be the case with Ilok so that shouldn't be a problem I hope ?!

Wit ilok you lose the "activation" when you either lose or break an ilok key or you wipe your hard disk or you mainboard breaks with soft (computer) activated license. You have to contact each developer of whom you lost an activation.
Same goes for elicenser afaik.

It seems that this is only true for lost/stolen keys

From

https://www.ilok.com/#!support/help/102 ... /102029704

For a broken iLok RMA, we are authorized by the software publishers to provide permanent replacement licenses for those that we recover from your broken iLok. Once we receive your broken iLok, we recover the licenses from it and deposit permanent replacement licenses in your account.

For a Lost/Stolen iLok RMA, if your iLok has Theft & Loss Coverage enabled, we replace your licenses. If the Lost/Stolen iLok did not have Theft & Loss Coverage, we are not authorized by the software companies to do the permanent license replacements. You would need to contact the software companies directly regarding getting replacements for the lost licenses.

It is exactly as I said (leaving out the iLok insurance of course). If I say broken I mean, it is destroyed and they can't recover the licenses. Of course you can try to send it in.

But in case it was more or less your own fault (destroying, formatting hard disk etc.) You need to contact the developers to send you new activation in good will.
Pace won't do anything.

Since they have an exact log in their systems about what licences you have on your account and where they are (as we can also see on their app), it would seem that in the case of a broken ilok that they recieve, identifying its serial number should be enough for them to replace the licenses (since they are "authorized" by the software publishers as they say). Anyway, I don't know If they actually require a semi-working dongle and, if so, why?

[dermage]

I have to say that there is a very legit and understandable reasons to know what sort of copy protection is used in different softwares..
.. this is an important topic and source of information.
I don't know if I should call it user-friendly, But I take a peaceful and relaxed breathing when I find companies with key file/serial based CP (without need to be tied to a machine that might fail or other very possible case), I love that and my investment will be there always.

Heartily agree! So which Companies would you buy Plug-ins from preferably ?


As far as the USB thing goes, USB drives are a good idea but they often fail. That ain't a problem but in Waves case I think you might be penalised because they should be transferred back to the 'Cloud' in order to be used again ? I may not be correct in this but it's what I heard.
I haven't heard this to be the case with Ilok so that shouldn't be a problem I hope ?!

Wit ilok you lose the "activation" when you either lose or break an ilok key or you wipe your hard disk or you mainboard breaks with soft (computer) activated license. You have to contact each developer of whom you lost an activation.
Same goes for elicenser afaik.

It seems that this is only true for lost/stolen keys

From

https://www.ilok.com/#!support/help/102 ... /102029704

For a broken iLok RMA, we are authorized by the software publishers to provide permanent replacement licenses for those that we recover from your broken iLok. Once we receive your broken iLok, we recover the licenses from it and deposit permanent replacement licenses in your account.

For a Lost/Stolen iLok RMA, if your iLok has Theft & Loss Coverage enabled, we replace your licenses. If the Lost/Stolen iLok did not have Theft & Loss Coverage, we are not authorized by the software companies to do the permanent license replacements. You would need to contact the software companies directly regarding getting replacements for the lost licenses.

It is exactly as I said (leaving out the iLok insurance of course). If I say broken I mean, it is destroyed and they can't recover the licenses. Of course you can try to send it in.

But in case it was more or less your own fault (destroying, formatting hard disk etc.) You need to contact the developers to send you new activation in good will.
Pace won't do anything.

Since they have an exact log in their systems about what licences you have on your account and where they are (as we can also see on their app), it would seem that in the case of a broken ilok that they recieve, identifying its serial number should be enough for them to replace the licenses (since they are "authorized" by the software publishers as they say). Anyway, I don't know If they actually require a semi-working dongle and, if so, why?

Yeah, possible. But only those know who have tried this yet

Anyway, I have two dongles. will never use the soft activation since I already "lost" a license. But always look out for vendors who use serial/keyfile only activation, that's the best.

[ATS]

Discodsp has none that I know of

[ZINO]

Yeah, possible. But only those know who have tried this yet

Anyway, I have two dongles. will never use the soft activation since I already "lost" a license. But always look out for vendors who use serial/keyfile only activation, that's the best.

I had the soft elicenser erea of my PC corrupted and become useless just because I upgraded my graphics card! Thankfully I am not using this, supposed, dongless iLok or elicenser "convenience" option (but in reality a PITA) either, but I had to delete the steinberg corrupted file because windows would pop-up when I would try to start my DAWs.

Even so, I still consider the original C/R protection (write your machine code on our site to get a serial) the worst of the bunch. It's such an insult fo the paid customer. I've been eyeing some Mercuriall stuff, but no...