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Goony · Post by **Goony** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:37 pm

Auplant wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 pm All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.

And there you have it, its official, someone can and does talk out of their arse.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:38 pm

Goony · Post by **Goony** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:45 pm

Auplant wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:06 pm Really doesn't sound special to me, sounds like a cheap VST

All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.

So which is it then, as you seem mightily confused here, is it a cheap sounding VST, or a big sounding hardware synth.

I give you a clue the synth is hardware with the FX only coming via the VST software, you really do across as a complete numpty here.

Goony · Post by **Goony** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:59 pm

Well after having the Trueno for a couple weeks, finally have it setup way I want it, even dug out my old Novation Nocturn to control it, this thing for it's size sounds great, quite deep too in places once you start playing with controls.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:12 pm

Goony wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:59 pm having the Trueno for a couple weeks

You happy with the purchase?

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:42 pm

Auplant wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 pm
Goony wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:08 pm
Auplant wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:06 pm Really doesn't sound special to me, sounds like a cheap VST
Ok so how does a cheap vst sound?
All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.

All cheap analogue synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as expensive analogue synths. It's just a fact.

I corrected that for you

Goony · Post by **Goony** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:37 pm

Distorted Horizon wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:12 pm
Goony wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:59 pm having the Trueno for a couple weeks
You happy with the purchase?

Definately, its a great little synth, I got it at £90 bargain and great sounding, and no issues setting it up, in fact its part of my Ableton default template nowadays.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:38 pm

Awesome

Same here, though I have it in Bitwig template

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:20 am

Auplant wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 pm All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.

OMG, great wisdom

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:49 am

kv331 wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:20 am
Auplant wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 pm All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.
OMG, great wisdom

Tell me about it.. I've considered Synthmaster to be one of the very best softsynths I have a license for. Now I learned that against my own experience, it sounds slightly thin and not as big as hardware

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:06 pm

Yeah, who knew? Honestly, it does my head in that anyone can say such patently stupid things and actually believe them. I remember the first time I hooked up a MIDI keyboard and played a VSTi like a hardware synth. It completely changes the way you think about them. When they are just pretty coloured interfaces you interact with using a mouse, they really don't feel as special as a hardware synth but once you can play them on a real keyboard, using a mod wheel and aftertouch and all the rest of it, that feeling goes completely out the window and you wonder why you bother with hardware at all.

Auplant wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 pmAll cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.

No, it's not. What may, however, be a fact is that you are a fool. How can you possibly think that any but the biggest, baddest, bestest hardware synths would have a hope of competing with softsynths that can bring 40 or 50 oscillators to bear on a single note? Most hardware just can't compete with that. I had a go at using the Analog Keys on our last album but, ultimately, I got better results from Hive and Thorn, so ultimately I discarded the hardware tracks.

Auplant · Post by **Auplant** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:17 pm

Goony wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:45 pm
Auplant wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:06 pm Really doesn't sound special to me, sounds like a cheap VST

All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.
So which is it then, as you seem mightily confused here, is it a cheap sounding VST, or a big sounding hardware synth.

I give you a clue the synth is hardware with the FX only coming via the VST software, you really do across as a complete numpty here.

Relax..I wasn't being so literal. I was merely giving my opinion based on audible phenomenon. This USB thing doesn't show for itself as hardware analog if it doesn't sound like it is. Ok I believe it is a fact that let's say Access Virus TI does not sound like the likes of Spire. Even though that's virtual analog. The virus hardware sound is unmistakable to me.

Auplant · Post by **Auplant** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:20 pm

Distorted Horizon wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:49 am
kv331 wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:20 am
Auplant wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 pm All cheap software synths sound slightly thin and are not as big sounding as hardware synths. It's just a fact.
OMG, great wisdom
Tell me about it.. I've considered Synthmaster to be one of the very best softsynths I have a license for. Now I learned that against my own experience, it sounds slightly thin and not as big as hardware

Yes it sounds slightly thin. I have my opinion and you have yours.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:05 pm

Auplant wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:20 pm Yes it sounds slightly thin.

Omg you're so funny

Auplant wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:20 pm I have my opinion and you have yours.

You may have an opinion, I have a fact

Goony · Post by **Goony** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:54 pm

Auplant wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:17 pm
Relax..I wasn't being so literal. I was merely giving my opinion based on audible phenomenon. This USB thing doesn't show for itself as hardware analog if it doesn't sound like it is. Ok I believe it is a fact that let's say Access Virus TI does not sound like the likes of Spire. Even though that's virtual analog. The virus hardware sound is unmistakable to me.

YOU are the one that was stating everything as fact, when you completely wrong as others have also pointed out, you backtrack. You just dont know when to shhhh....

Tone2 I2 vs Trueno Analog