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zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:06 pm

NEWS: For upcoming and future product and update releases, we will no longer offer support for the Windows operating system below version 10. There are several reasons for this, for detail information please follow the link to our forum post:

https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewto ... 3&t=166644

If the official version has already been discussed here, please forgive me.
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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:08 pm

In before the shitstorm.

Fair move from Steinberg. At the latest, in January 2020, any Windows below 10 will be dead anyway. Windows 8 has very few users as well. This will all benefit the vast majority of users anyway. I think other devs will soon follow. Apart from Reaper of course (i think it still "supports" Windows XP... guess it's easy to support that anyway, if noone actually uses it anymore, and has support requests in the process).

ReverendLove · Post by **ReverendLove** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:27 pm

It's a decision of the company. I can understand it even. Supporting a lot platforms costs a lot. The customer pays. I don't want to pay for anachronisms.

Does not hurt me because I am on Win 10. My Win 7 laptop will stay wit CB 10.0.30 until it dies.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:41 pm

Seems it won't kick in till cubendo 10.5.
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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:45 pm

Funny that some people on the Steiny forum say that Windows 10 is the most reliable Windows anyway. Contary to some of the haters out there, which claim exactly the opposite.

Psuper · Post by **Psuper** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:46 pm

It was inevitable unfortunately. You need to spend a good amount of time to actually lock it down properly, most people have no idea how many "ears and mouths" Windows 10 has -- and the lockdowns are far more than one app, a few regedits and some forum advice, but it is the only way forward if you know the shit that is Win10.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:49 pm

Psuper wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:46 pm It was inevitable unfortunately. You need to spend a good amount of time to actually lock it down properly, most people have no idea how many "ears and mouths" Windows 10 has

Or... they simply don't share the same amount of concern in that regard. What does that mean anyway, "ears and mouths"? As if algorithms would be living and breathing beings.

No, i don't want to thematize that kind of political topic here again.

Benutzername · Post by **Benutzername** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:57 pm

This is the truth of 2019. Even though we have very conservative users we stopped support for anything below Win10 a while ago. Supporting end user software on an operating system that is not supported anymore is a nightmare.

However, we still test our software with Win7 and try to make it work. I think this is the way most companies (including Steinberg) will handle it: If Win7 works for a customer then it's great but if there are problems then the customer is on his own.

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:58 pm

Windows user: WTF! This is unacceptable!

Mac user: Welcome to my world.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:17 pm

Benutzername wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:57 pm This is the truth of 2019. Even though we have very conservative users we stopped support for anything below Win10 a while ago. Supporting end user software on an operating system that is not supported anymore is a nightmare.

However, we still test our software with Win7 and try to make it work. I think this is the way most companies (including Steinberg) will handle it: If Win7 works for a customer then it's great but if there are problems then the customer is on his own.

You might need some hacks to be able to even install the software though. I think that was how it used to be for Cubase 5, when you tried to install it on Windows XP. It showed a "unsupported OS" in the installer, or something similar, and you needed to apply a workaround to be able to install it. Don't remember exactly what it was, but, i remember that it refused to install.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:19 pm

sprnva wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:58 pm Windows user: WTF! This is unacceptable!

Mac user: Welcome to my world.

It's a tad different though. It's not like on Mac, where things just stop working. Windows has always had focus on backwards compatibility.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:39 pm

They no longer support Sandy Bridge and earlier cpus

https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-u ... r-hardware

rlared · Post by **rlared** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:15 pm

Makes complete sense. Lets them focus their resources on less platforms.

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:03 pm

If it ain't broke don't fix it. So I don't use OS that keeps trying to fix.

Reefius · Post by **Reefius** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:17 pm

I don't get some people's logic... They always want to be able to run the latest version of everything, except their OS.

For Steinberg, any future product and update release, Windows below 10 is 'dead'