Renoise MIDI editing

[bharris22]

Hi everyone,

As I understand it, one of the features of Renoise is that you can edit individual MIDI notes within a chord - for example, panning the third in a chord from left to right without having to record or move that note to a separate track. Are there other DAWs that permit this level of editing? Does Renoise offer other MIDI editing advantages that other DAWs don’t? If not, are there generally other advantages in working in a tracker versus a more traditional DAW, or is it just a matter of preference?

Thanks!

[EnGee]

There is another thread if you want to follow:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=530933

I'm new to Renoise and trackers, but I think I'm getting their idea. Anyway, maybe this video answers your question. If not, then just watch more videos

[EnGee]

duplicate!

[JoseC.]

Hi everyone,

As I understand it, one of the features of Renoise is that you can edit individual MIDI notes within a chord - for example, panning the third in a chord from left to right without having to record or move that note to a separate track. Are there other DAWs that permit this level of editing? Does Renoise offer other MIDI editing advantages that other DAWs don’t? If not, are there generally other advantages in working in a tracker versus a more traditional DAW, or is it just a matter of preference?

Thanks!

Any DAW that has an editable Event List will do. In this case "traditional" DAWs, like CbB will work best.

[Gamma-UT]

Hi everyone,

As I understand it, one of the features of Renoise is that you can edit individual MIDI notes within a chord - for example, panning the third in a chord from left to right without having to record or move that note to a separate track. Are there other DAWs that permit this level of editing? Does Renoise offer other MIDI editing advantages that other DAWs don’t? If not, are there generally other advantages in working in a tracker versus a more traditional DAW, or is it just a matter of preference?

Thanks!

Cubase has VST Note Expression - though you need to set up how the plugin reacts to the control values to get the same effect when these things are baked into Renoise somewhat (so it has advantages and disadvantages).

For me, a tracker like Renoise tends to make me think differently about composition. Anything where you want fiddly control over samples is where the tracker excels rather than the MIDI-level stuff as continuous controllers don't really gel that well with the way trackers emphasise discrete events. It's easy to see why someone like Venetian Snares uses a tracker rather than a piano-roll sequencer.

[bharris22]

Thank you, everyone!

[Unaspected]

You can do it directly in FL Studio's piano roll without any setup - just change the function of the control at the bottom from velocity to panning via the drop-down menu to the left of it. You can address pitch and various other features per note. Edit in that section or mouse over then Alt+scroll wheel to adjust the selected parameter.

Renoise has interested me, on and off, for a while. I first found computer based music with Octamed on the Amiga so it might be a little nostalgic to learn a tracker properly. I've yet to invest but when I found out that Venetian Snares used it, it became more interesting. Though that was a few years ago. So maybe not that interesting.

[perfumer]

Thank you, everyone!

https://tutorials.renoise.com/wiki/Effect_Commands

[Tronam]

Hi everyone,

As I understand it, one of the features of Renoise is that you can edit individual MIDI notes within a chord - for example, panning the third in a chord from left to right without having to record or move that note to a separate track. Are there other DAWs that permit this level of editing? Does Renoise offer other MIDI editing advantages that other DAWs don’t? If not, are there generally other advantages in working in a tracker versus a more traditional DAW, or is it just a matter of preference?

Thanks!

What makes trackers particularly powerful is when using their internal sample playback system. Using raw samples or instruments built in Renoise allows all of the sophisticated effect commands to be applied in realtime per note at lightning speed: panning, volume cuts, pitch bends, vibrato etc... Most DAWs are sending MIDI note data to virtual or external instruments, which is less malleable and usually not per-voice flexible. Of course, Renoise can do that too.

[gentleclockdivider]

You can do it directly in FL Studio's piano roll without any setup - just change the function of the control at the bottom from velocity to panning via the drop-down menu to the left of it. You can address pitch and various other features per note. Edit in that section or mouse over then Alt+scroll wheel to adjust the selected parameter.

Renoise has interested me, on and off, for a while. I first found computer based music with Octamed on the Amiga so it might be a little nostalgic to learn a tracker properly. I've yet to invest but when I found out that Venetian Snares used it, it became more interesting. Though that was a few years ago. So maybe not that interesting.

Because ven.snares used it , renoise becomes more interesting to you ...hmm ..that's a sheep like way of thinking (but I get your point ) .
FYI , trackers can be heard trough out the whole ninet ies era of idm , from squarepusher to aphex , bogdan raczynksi etcc..
Certain effects commmands can be heard from a mile away , cut , repitch , re-trigger .
It always makes me laugh when people are trying to do this in a piano style roll sequencer , how many countless hours of their life thrown away because of the piano lol
Nothing comes close to trackers when it comes to sample manipulation /sequencing , and what's even better is renoise's excellent instrument editor .
Evolving additive synthesis is possible by just drawing long dc samples ( which function as as a gain controller ) controlling the amplitude of a sine ( be it the ring mod or the sine in the instrument editor ) ..
I created verry convincing 808 kits by just using dc samples to ping the filters ,trigger noise etc.. etc
It' not for everyone , but once you get the hold of it , there is no way back
Renoise Rocks