Native Instruments Layoffs?

[chk071]

It's really a bit ironic, when you read all that, and see it happen every day... (Yes, i'm guilty as well)

[robotmonkey]

Massive X was a huge fail, imho. Haven't used it yet but I'm mighty pissed. That's how bad it is.

[Stefken]

Some prefer to complain.

Every criticsm holds an opportunity to better your product.

But of course, you need the volition to listen instead of dismissing every argument with a fallacy.

[telecode]

Positivism buffer overflow, guys. You need to feel insulted. And disrespected. And betrayed. Otherwise, it's no true NI or MX thread.

Damn right Brooker T MG!! I amma sick and tired of this NI bullshit company. They messed up my plans for world domination of the pop and HipHop scene. Buncha muttafawkin German totalitarian bullshit dudes. Im outta here and going back to the hood where the drinkin is good and the women are loose!


[/Sarcasm]

[Stefken]

Also Sami Rabia and some others have already released some stuff for MX, so no matter the flaws and "disrespect", pro sound designers somehow manage to work with MX.

Never heard about Sami Rabia before. His soundset for MX is very nice

It's actually my favorite sound designer.
He can't make a bad soundset. It's not in his blood, ha

Luftrum is great too.

[chk071]

Some prefer to complain.

Every criticsm holds an opportunity to better your product.

But of course, you need the volition to listen instead of dismissing every argument with a fallacy.

Well, there's criticism and criticism. Or rather, constructive criticism, which leads to the improvement of the product, or saying that the product is a insult, that you feel disrepected, and that it is betrayal to the customer. See the difference?

Not that this hasn't been discussed to death by now.

[chk071]

Also Sami Rabia and some others have already released some stuff for MX, so no matter the flaws and "disrespect", pro sound designers somehow manage to work with MX.

Never heard about Sami Rabia before. His soundset for MX is very nice

It's actually my favorite sound designer.

He's awesome.

[Stefken]

Some prefer to complain.

Every criticsm holds an opportunity to better your product.

But of course, you need the volition to listen instead of dismissing every argument with a fallacy.

Well, there's criticism and criticism.

I can understand that people feel disappointed. I bought the upgrade mainly for MX. It doesn't even fire up anymore after a bad update and is now 'sitting in the basement'. Necessary updates have also been very slow. So, yeah, disappointement is understandable.

Betrayal is really overstating it of course.

[recursive one]

It doesn't even fire up anymore after a bad update and is now 'sitting in the basement'.

What was this update?

[tapekiller]

It's not really complaining, it's just an opinion.

It's not really a opinion. You say that everyone who knows about UI/UX design should have the same opinion as you have. That's pretty pretentious and imperious.

A opinion would be: "I don't like the GUI." Opposed to "Everyone in their sane minds find the GUI is totally messed up. Hell, even those who don't find it messed up."

I meant that anyone with some knowledge would notice these flaws, because they are objective, not necessarily agree on how bad they are, but still notice it.
What's even more pretentious is assuming that someone that express an opinion about glaring issues automatically means that anyone who doesn't agree with what has just been said is stupid or incompetent. You take things too literally and make assumptions. Relax.

[vurt]

Some prefer to complain.

Every criticsm holds an opportunity to better your product.

But of course, you need the volition to listen instead of dismissing every argument with a fallacy.

Well, there's criticism and criticism. Or rather, constructive criticism, which leads to the improvement of the product, or saying that the product is a insult, that you feel disrepected, and that it is betrayal to the customer. See the difference?

Not that this hasn't been discussed to death by now.

now, hes gonna criticize your criticism of his criticism.

its turtles all the way down

[whyterabbyt]

Some prefer to complain.

Every criticsm holds an opportunity to better your product.

Valid criticisms, yes. Whiny self-entitlement not so much.

[vurt]

so,we are talking roughly 30 coders?
not really much worth worrying about.

[Stefken]

It's not really complaining, it's just an opinion.

It's not really a opinion. You say that everyone who knows about UI/UX design should have the same opinion as you have. That's pretty pretentious and imperious.

A opinion would be: "I don't like the GUI." Opposed to "Everyone in their sane minds find the GUI is totally messed up. Hell, even those who don't find it messed up."

I meant that anyone with some knowledge would notice these flaws, because they are objective, not necessarily agree on how bad they are, but still notice it.
What's even more pretentious is assuming that someone that express an opinion about glaring issues automatically means that anyone who doesn't agree with what has just been said is stupid or incompetent. You take things too literally and make assumptions. Relax.

+1
They are objective for people with ui knowledge.

And saying that it can't be bad because of who made it, is like saying that U2 can't make a bad record. We all know how that went.

[vurt]

which idiots claimed u2 cant make a bad record?
have they not heard u2?