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robotmonkey wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:35 pm
Calenberger wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:10 pm I can not understand how this repeated talk about subscription can be matched with an integrated hardware / software environment which NI has. Is here at KVR a Plugin Alliance subscription trauma prevalent which obfuscates logic?
Simple. Software on your controller will also need subscription or it will not work.
would anyone at all purchase the hw?
i dont mind subs i can switch off and forget, a sub actually taking up physical space when not in use? that's too far!
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vurt wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:38 pm
robotmonkey wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:35 pm Simple. Software on your controller will also need subscription or it will not work.
would anyone at all purchase the hw?
i dont mind subs i can switch off and forget, a sub actually taking up physical space when not in use? that's too far!
I'm sure Jordan Rudess will buy. And if he buys it, then me too, because he's not wrong.
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well if they model it after one of those klingon axe things i could be persuaded.
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As part of the new strategy, I would welcome more & more of the legacy Komplete content to be re-packaged into their "Play" series and making the Play series the earliest to have scalable GUI's.

The Play series correlates to the KK keyboards in an extremely usable way and is tremendous for the actual workflow of creating music.

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ay-series/

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robotmonkey wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:47 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:38 pm
robotmonkey wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:35 pm Simple. Software on your controller will also need subscription or it will not work.
would anyone at all purchase the hw?
i dont mind subs i can switch off and forget, a sub actually taking up physical space when not in use? that's too far!
I'm sure Jordan Rudess will get one for free. And if he does, then I'ma buy me one, because he's not wrong.
I fixed it.

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chk071 wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:12 am Image
At least the laid off workers each got a purple car
to drive home in, as part of the severance package :hyper:

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When I was young and inexperienced, I learned that the 40 hour work week
would strongly limit my ability to build wealth.
People have 80 or 90 hours a week that can be used to 'just work',
whether for themselves, or someone else,
and many successful business owners did both for long seasons.

A side effect of working enough hours to have money,
is not needing to pay interest...(twenty soumpin's,
let that thought marinade, and be bar-b-qued by whatever
synapses haven't yet been twisted by your legalized thc
$ :dog: $ interest payments erode, or kill wealth. S :dog: $

When wealthy people choose to, or are forced to borrow,
it's rarely a good sign. Hopefully the good people at NI
will escape any financial traps that exist or arise.
Cheers

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Calenberger wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:00 pm I'm more concerned that some small developers will stop their business than big players like NI.
All in all NI's product range is impressing and (when looking at Komplete bundles) is worth the monies.

However, some guys obviously like to pray doom and gloom.
They should produce some Dark Ambient or Death Metal instead of posting this "the end is near" / "managers are bastards" stuff. That would be more entertaining...
I've never found noisy accompaniments to lyrics saying
"the end is near" / "managers are bastards" entertaining.
But my ears are still open to better renditions...
The sun, having passed half-life, certainly guarantees the end,
but it's not ours to know the day and hour :hyper:

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Calenberger wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:12 pm
fedexnman wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:06 pm Maybe Apple will buy them up like they did Camel Audio ?
For me as Mac / LogicPro user that would be my preferred solution... :tu: :D :P
I'm 98% linux for music, but if Apple made Komplete mac-only,
as with Camel Alchemy, I'd buy my wife the :hyper: Komplete-i-Mac :hyper:
and borrow it to tinker, while she was sleeping :wink:

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telecode wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:34 pm Anyone ever use that rockin' Gamelan in a song riff yet? :-)

Just sitting back and wait and see.. where it all goes.
I love gamelans as melodic or backdrops for other sounds,
used as a kit in the Hydrogen drum machine, where patterns of
glissands and arpeggios are easy to make. Perhaps not traditional,
but fun to use with Axiom or Amplitube along with
a nice guitar. I'll add the NI gamelan if another half-price sale
includes it. Got PolyPlex instead, last sale, a great NI percussion tool.

Just sitting back and wait and see.. where it all goes.
Ditto that.

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Sorry guys, my wife makes the coffee on Sundays,
perhaps a little strong this time :wink:

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glokraw wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:04 pm When wealthy people choose to, or are forced to borrow,
it's rarely a good sign.
This statement couldn't be more wrong.

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yehboy1 wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:09 pm
glokraw wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:04 pm When wealthy people choose to, or are forced to borrow,
it's rarely a good sign.
This statement couldn't be more wrong.
Yeah, getting rich with someone else's money is definitely a GOOD thing :hihi:

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well lending to people who couldn't pay back is where it all went to shit but that's going toward hpc.

im quite interested in these kitchen fellas though, are they waiting till more than 6 people have a talking fridge and a smart kettle and then they'll make a killing?
if its smart kitchens, maybe they want to incorporate something akin to maschine? with different cells turning on different appliances and a keyboard to entertain guests?
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yehboy1 wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:09 pm
glokraw wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:04 pm When wealthy people choose to, or are forced to borrow,
it's rarely a good sign.
This statement couldn't be more wrong.
Right or wrong is relative, so will ignore. The absolute is that innovators borrow when the risk is too high for them to self-fund development. They don’t want to lose too much, so those with a greater risk tolerance will lend if an opportunity is sufficiently compelling. Ultimately, high risk -> high reward and those putting their funds at high risk will demand a strong say in management and direction of a company.

Propellerheads seems to provide a good example of when this works. They’re doing better since Verdane committed capital. It took awhile to turn the ship, but they seem to be gaining momentum.
It's the music that makes the science worthwhile.

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