The Prodigy Breaks?

[ere2learn]

im using ableton

You need to watch Ned Rush,should give you good insight

[GateWay47]

im using ableton

You need to watch Ned Rush,should give you good insight

Yeah i watched that before, I have Live Lite so i dont get the slice audio to midi option but i do have simpler but with simpler its hard to get the notes just right.

[GateWay47]

So after a little bit of messin around i came up with this

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_tyaj ... nSPYqOrPgc

Anything remotely similar to the prodigy? Cause Prodigy's breaks are always so bassy and aggressive but my are all like chill.

[Krzysztof Oktalski]

What do you mean by retriggering?

There are quite a few methods of slicing breaks, the most common in a tracker is switching its start position and retriggering the break. Renoise also has a slicer built in, so you can get somewhere in between the methods. Like this :



You'll need to watch it full screen at high res to see what's going on, but he basically demonstrates the method on there. What's nice about the tracker method is you tend to chop less, so you get more groove (bits that aren't quite in time, or swing a bit) in between the retriggers.

[GateWay47]

What do you mean by retriggering?

There are quite a few methods of slicing breaks, the most common in a tracker is switching its start position and retriggering the break. Renoise also has a slicer built in, so you can get somewhere in between the methods. Like this :



You'll need to watch it full screen at high res to see what's going on, but he basically demonstrates the method on there. What's nice about the tracker method is you tend to chop less, so you get more groove (bits that aren't quite in time, or swing a bit) in between the retriggers.

Wow that's cool thank you so much.

Renoise is kind of confusing to me, cant get two breaks to sound right together even with repitching.

Any good tutorial videos or channels you recommend?

[hma]

for renoise i recommend you to download this break pack, they`re already sliced up with markers and also will sync with song bpm if you enable beatsync in sampler.

[GateWay47]

for renoise i recommend you to download this break pack, they`re already sliced up with markers and also will sync with song bpm if you enable beatsync in sampler.

Cool, I checked them out and they have some really good breaks on them

Thank you so much.

[AndonHH]

https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/music-movin
What do you guys think of the breaks here?

[GateWay47]

https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/music-movin
What do you guys think of the breaks here?

Not to sound rude, but make your own Subject and ask.

[AndonHH]

https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/music-movin
What do you guys think of the breaks here?

Not to sound rude, but make your own Subject and ask.

Sorry, I just thought since this is about rave sound and breaks, and my post happened to be in the same subject, it was OK to ask about it here. Guess i was wrong (TRUMP voice)!

[Danno]

Old post I know.. but I loved this. And I love the idea of these samples getting recycled and recontextualized like this. Like, does it really sound like a snare anymore?

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I looked up the kniteforce 50 breaks and i found they're all sped up. Shouldn't they be the original so i can cut it up?

Yeah, but like I said a lot of those tracks were made from secondary, tertiary sources not the originals. People used to rip off other rave records all the time and layer a couple of breaks together. My point with the Prodigy lift was they did very little work to get the result, they sampled the Shamen, who sampled it from Style, who probably sampled it from Paris who sampled Lyn Collins "Think", or something like that. It's this processing chain that makes it distinctive, if you listen to it against a standard Think break the difference is apparent and all versions I mentioned sound different. The point with the knite force thing is that they've all been heavily processed, most of them came off the hip hop records rather than the original breaks. That's how you get that old school sound, use the hip hop, hip house versions of breaks rather than the originals. You can cut things up a lot of different ways too, that has a big effect on the outcome. Trackers are awesome for it.