Unfiltered Audio Lion

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hhuang9611
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672 posts since 1 Mar, 2018 from USA

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:58 pm

Priced currently $169, hopefully heavy-hitters can get a decent discount soon
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nathanj
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375 posts since 23 Mar, 2013

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:07 pm

was hoping for a crossgrade deal (from BYOME) like Triad since a decent amount of the DSP is from BYOME. hopefully they add in some more discounts cause 170 is much too steep for me.

PieBerger
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478 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:21 pm

nathanj wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:07 pm
was hoping for a crossgrade deal (from BYOME) like Triad since a decent amount of the DSP is from BYOME. hopefully they add in some more discounts cause 170 is much too steep for me.
Likewise, I have everything except Zip and I'm similarly disappointed at the lack of crossgrade offer, at 200 bucks after VAT it's a non-starter for me. No big sweat though, I love BYOME/TRIAD and will continue to use these with the many other awesome synths that I have :)
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nathanj
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375 posts since 23 Mar, 2013

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:24 pm

@PieBerger

Exactly!

Edit: I mean no disrespect to the UA devs. You guys are awesome. It's just the marketing could sometimes use some work.

DrFolder
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118 posts since 4 Feb, 2015

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:32 pm

I almost brought it and just couldn't bring myself to. I own Byome and Triad and can't see why I would spend so much on effectively 2 osc's and a mix section. I'm going to hold off for a bit.

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aMUSEd
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31073 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:46 pm

hhuang9611 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:58 pm
Priced currently $169, hopefully heavy-hitters can get a decent discount soon
I have Byome and Triad (and all except ZIP), you would think there would be a reduction

nathanj
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375 posts since 23 Mar, 2013

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:48 pm

So there's an intro price of $129 if you use the code LION-129-INTRO

But they're gonna have to do better than that still for BYOME or Triad owners.

kelvyn
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1075 posts since 9 Mar, 2008 from netherlands

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:03 am

I find some of the negative comments regarding PA a little confusing. So what if they jumped on the Sub bandwagon - seems like everybody’s doing it - the pricing is ok plus they offer different sub bundles, not forcing everyone to sub all products that they don’t need. Seems fair to me. Then there was the seemingly new price structure that was forcing people to sub - your choice - and the fear that there wouldn’t be any more sales... looks like they might have been listening as there’s a $39 deal on the SPL Vitalizer this week.
Now Lion... Heavy Hitter price is $99 until 31 Sep and if you receive a monthly voucher it’s even cheaper. Thanks PA :tu:

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exmatproton
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2523 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

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Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:12 am

Xbucket wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:44 pm
Just checked it out. Do i miss something or doesn´t it have mseg Envelopes? Soundwise i have to dig deeper; it seems to be great for atmospheric stuff but i am not sure if i would use it for bread and butter stuff, but time will tell and i don´t know if it should be a synth for the regular stuff.
multi segment envelope generators Envelopes? No, it hasn't have those. Also, no MSEG's. Lots of other fun stuff though.

PieBerger
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478 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:24 am

kelvyn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:03 am
I find some of the negative comments regarding PA a little confusing. So what if they jumped on the Sub bandwagon - seems like everybody’s doing it - the pricing is ok plus they offer different sub bundles, not forcing everyone to sub all products that they don’t need. Seems fair to me. Then there was the seemingly new price structure that was forcing people to sub - your choice - and the fear that there wouldn’t be any more sales... looks like they might have been listening as there’s a $39 deal on the SPL Vitalizer this week.
Now Lion... Heavy Hitter price is $99 until 31 Sep and if you receive a monthly voucher it’s even cheaper. Thanks PA :tu:
Still no sale price for loyal UA customers though, especially those who own BYOME/TRIAD, which is 50% or more of LION's makeup. Why existing PA customers who own a tonne of other vendors software but not BYOME/TRIAD, should be entitled to a bigger discount is plain weird and example of how PA goes about things is the most backwards of ways. They attract a lot of negative comments, not necessarily from what they do but how they do it. Offering a discount isn't unusual, but giving it to heavy hitters and not existing UA customers is. Personally it makes me very wary to buy from PA, unless it's for no brainer price, because you just don't know what you're going to get with them. You might buy a plugin at $99 and then 2 days later get sent an e-mail with a special one time code for reason X, where you can get it for $4 after using a voucher...

Edit: I would like to invest in UA because I really like their plugins, but since they are tied to PA, including official support and licensing I'm just not prepared to drop a tonne of cash. If they can afford to sell to heavy hitters for $99, then I don't think a $49 price tag for loyal UA customers is being too unreasonable.
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exmatproton
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2523 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:26 am

hmmm...this version is still 1.0.0, with all the bugs there are reported. I hoped they would release it with AT LEAST the quantization fixed..

nathanj
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375 posts since 23 Mar, 2013

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Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:29 am

Yeah, always wait to the end of a sale to be safe with PA. They always throw in sweeteners trying to get as many sales as possible. it's annoying as f**k if you buy in too early.

but hey. capitalism, yay! sign

mcbpete
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1584 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:01 am

kelvyn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:03 am
Now Lion... Heavy Hitter price is $99 until 31 Sep and if you receive a monthly voucher it’s even cheaper. Thanks PA :tu:
Yep just picked up my copy for just under £24 :tu:

graspee
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91 posts since 1 Jan, 2018

Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:09 am

I own every UA plugin except Dent 2 but I'm not a Heavy Hitter on PA so price for me is the exact same as someone who's never bought a thing. I can't pay $129 for this. There was a discount on Triad for BYOME owners and I have to suspect PA and their new subscription mania is behind there being no Triad or BYOME owner discount for Lion.
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gentleclockdivider
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Re: Unfiltered Audio Lion

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:17 am

So what's the update rate for modulation , is it at sample rate or a lesser control rate ?
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