Hi there
I'm looking for a host that would allow me to use VST's (no VSTi's) i live situations. Something that would allow me to get audio in (through ASIO), process it in a chain of VST's and send it to PA/mix (through ASIO soundcard once again).
I CAN do this with Cubase - but that is very cumbersome and not well suited for live usage. Something light (and rock stable) that can save/load settings for the plugins and just stream audio through them would be preferred. Any suggestions?
/mortjo
Host for live VST usage
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- KVRAF
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
I second the energyXT (40 EURO) suggestion. If you only need to route VST effects, this might be good enough for you.
Also have a look at the demo of Brainspawn Forte ($ 149)(works only in Win2000/WinXP). Forte is written specifically for live usage and includes a Scene Manager.
Also have a look at the demo of Brainspawn Forte ($ 149)(works only in Win2000/WinXP). Forte is written specifically for live usage and includes a Scene Manager.
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- KVRAF
- 4143 posts since 7 Sep, 2001 from Melbourne, Australia
If I'm not mistaken, someone in this forum actually uses Ableton's Live to mix his band while performing live.
I don't use the host myself, but I imagine it would accept VST plug-ins and was made for live performance anyway so probably a good call.
On the other hand....
The great thing about EnergyXT is that it is a very light host and there can be alot of advantages. Because it's modular you can create complete project environments for processing audio have them all saved to disk and be able to load them up with program control changes. If this is primarily what you want to do, EnergyXT is a VERY cheap alternative to something like Ableton Live.
I don't actually know much about its stability in live situations because I don't perform live, but there are a few EnergyXT users who do actually use it live. Perhaps if you post some questions in the company forum you can get the answers you need to help make a decision.
Caleb
I don't use the host myself, but I imagine it would accept VST plug-ins and was made for live performance anyway so probably a good call.
On the other hand....
The great thing about EnergyXT is that it is a very light host and there can be alot of advantages. Because it's modular you can create complete project environments for processing audio have them all saved to disk and be able to load them up with program control changes. If this is primarily what you want to do, EnergyXT is a VERY cheap alternative to something like Ableton Live.
I don't actually know much about its stability in live situations because I don't perform live, but there are a few EnergyXT users who do actually use it live. Perhaps if you post some questions in the company forum you can get the answers you need to help make a decision.
Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
also Console is good for this kind of thing (supports DX/i as well).
Depends how in depth you need the host to be...
DSP
Depends how in depth you need the host to be...
DSP
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- KVRist
- 301 posts since 30 Aug, 2002
This is from the Conxole page:duncanparsons wrote:also Console is good for this kind of thing (supports DX/i as well).
Depends how in depth you need the host to be...
DSP
"CONSOLE can also be used to increase the number of plugins that you can use in applications that have a limited a number of plugin slots(eg Cubans). allowing you to use all the plugins at your disposal. The only limitation is your CPU."
Do Cubans really have a limited number of slots?
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- KVRian
- 529 posts since 7 Apr, 2003 from Nashville
Nice free/donationware solution:
1) TobyBear's MiniHost running
2) CTAF's Multifxvst
1) TobyBear's MiniHost running
2) CTAF's Multifxvst
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
FORTE seems to be a good solution too.
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- KVRAF
- 1789 posts since 17 Mar, 2004 from Bretagne, the west of France
Since I have Ableton, Console and Ext, here's my point of view.
If you ONLY want to play VSTi's live with routing adding effects,... Live is definitifly overkill. If you want to play defined loops, backing tracks,... then Live is the ideal solution.
Console and Ext offers for live playing the same, and for about the same price. I noticed a big difference between Ext and Console wich is important. With the same configuration, Ext has lower latency. I don't know why this is, suppose it is just better. But it is a fact ! This is the reason I switched from console to Ext.
Hope this helps
Rony
If you ONLY want to play VSTi's live with routing adding effects,... Live is definitifly overkill. If you want to play defined loops, backing tracks,... then Live is the ideal solution.
Console and Ext offers for live playing the same, and for about the same price. I noticed a big difference between Ext and Console wich is important. With the same configuration, Ext has lower latency. I don't know why this is, suppose it is just better. But it is a fact ! This is the reason I switched from console to Ext.
Hope this helps
Rony
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- KVRAF
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal