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[CasualHobbyist]

"18 years of Linux experience" and you didn't even manage to compile a single piece of software other than command lines applications? When I can do it on my sleep, and I have just a bit more than a year using Linux!

"18 years of Linux experience" And you didn't even manage to install Arch Linux. One of the easiest and most well documented distros to install on any computer, if you follow the handbooks available at least. (In contrast, I can install Gentoo too if I wanted)

"18 years of Linux experience" And you believe that Wine is some sort of magical program that brings all Windows apps from the 90's and beyond, that you can use them and that is a much better idea than "Running linux native while loading the occasional Windows plugin" because it'll have less problems and issues in your word.

"Plus, the number and diversity of plugins available for Windows is immensely huge. Linux will never achieve that in my lifetime, not unless we count Wine as part of it!" If you are counting old plugins from the 90's and early 2000's, sure, but those have been long deprecated and stopped being updated. If we are counting 2009 and beyond sure, but just because you have "tons" of plugins doesn't mean your music will be better. As there is a lot of crapware and badly programmed plugins so "diversity" doesn't always work in my view (There may be a few programs that could be essential for some composers but that's besides the point)

I have to be blunt here. For someone claiming to have "all those years" and "mastery of 3 scripting languages" you are failing with the most basic of the things you can find on Linux. And oh, before you tell me "You must be an experienced programmer raised by engineers", allow me to tell you, that while it is in my future plans, I don't have a lick of experience in programming yet (Few days ago, and after research, I was able to compile my first hello world on C++) I can do this "complicated Linux stuff" however, because I can read. So either you are very ignorant or just simply a troll.

Which is why I can't take anything that you said in this thread seriously.

[Forgotten]

So either you are very ignorant or just simply a troll.

I think in general this thread is nothing but a platform for him to insult and talk down to people.

[lmv]

It's 18 years of Linux experience actually working on the computer, using it for things completely unrelated to programming or IT. I just learned a little coding on the side as I went along.

No, I can't compile. Something always breaks along the way. Without knowing C, how am I supposed to fix it? Don't make it sound like it's simple. It isn't. You're the typical Linux zealot. Linux is never bad, never difficult, never wrong.

I really like Linux, but I don't mislead people.

I said I could have accomplished the Arch installation, but I just decided I wouldn't like it. Well documented? You bet. Easy? No, it isn't.

I almost wrote a joke in my previous post:

It could be worse. It could be BSD.

FreeBSD is very, very well documented. That doesn't mean it's easy.

The documentation can even be a problem. The manual is what, 2,876 pages, and DON'T YOU DARE ask questions about anything that is already included there. They might say something unpleasant about your mother. FreeBSD and OpenBSD people are awful, and proud of it. Not NetBSD, NetBSD people are nice.

I installed and tested NetBSD for the first time in the early oughts, when installing it really was about making fire with sticks. I could have accomplished the Arch installation, I just thought it wasn't worth the trouble.

I really like Linux, but I don't mislead people.

[lmv]

I think in general this thread is nothing but a platform for him to insult and talk down to people.

I could point out quite a few instances in this thread where people insulted me and talked down to me.

I never did, not even once. I just stand behind my opinion with arguments.

Perhaps a case of "label them what you are, accuse them of what you do"? A lot of Linux zealots would do that. I've seen it before.

[vortico]

I'm leaving this thread because after reading half of your recent posts, I feel that you are blatantly misrepresenting my posts with several strawman attacks. My claim was "libre software lasts because if the platform's ABI or API changes, anyone has the legal right to modify the software to run on it, unlike proprietary software" and you're going off on a whole different imaginary discussion.

[CasualHobbyist]

"You're the typical Linux zealot" Thanks for proving all of my points. I was waiting for you to take a gap at me and this basically confirms that you're quite indeed, a sad excuse of a troll. Have fun in your little world!

Also, "I really like Linux, but I don't mislead people." I love how you wrote this twice. Despite the fact that this is what you were doing (misleading basically) for all of this thread, every single word of yours!

[Forgotten]

"You're the typical Linux zealot" Thanks for proving all of my points. I was waiting for you to take a gap at me and this basically confirms that you're quite indeed, a sad excuse of a troll. Have fun in your little world!

Also, "I really like Linux, but I don't mislead people." I love how you wrote this twice. Despite the fact that this is what you were doing (misleading basically) for all of this thread, every single word of yours!

Well, he can have the thread to himself now. I'll bet he even continues to think that his behavior isn't what drove everyone from the thread.

[fladd]

I suggest to avoid using Linux for
- live shows
- paid studio work

Interesting...So if you suggest to avoid using a stable system for these tasks, what do you suggest to use? A system that breaks after each forced update?

[Hink]

So either you are very ignorant or just simply a troll.

I think in general this thread is nothing but a platform for him to insult and talk down to people.

totally agreed