KVR Audio

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:14 am

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off auto-scaling for VST3s in Ableton 10, the way that you can do it for VST2s? Reason 11 is advanced enough to be offered only in VST3, but I would like to have it run at its tiny native resolution as it looks pretty blurry on my Surface Go.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:49 am

Right click on it in the browser and disable auto scaling.
But if you disable it it will be very small, so I'm not sure that's better...

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:13 pm

I see that option for VST2s, but not VST3 - all I see is the ability to change the color. Am I missing something?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:54 pm

bharris22 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:13 pmI see that option for VST2s, but not VST3 - all I see is the ability to change the color. Am I missing something?

Perhaps the option is only visible for high-DPI aware plugins (like U-He, Arturia, Madrona, Fabfilter, etc.) so that you could disable it and use internal plugins scaling mechanisms, that always yield better results. I don't have Live anymore so can't verify this, but you seem out of luck

BTW, I don't think it matters whether it's VST2 or 3. VST3 supposedly makes scalable plugins easier to program, but that's still not something that's given by defult - developers still need to do it.

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:56 pm

OK - thanks. I agree that it shouldn't matter whether you are using a VST2 or VST3 plugin - the option to turn off auto-scaling should be there for both. Maybe I am not looking in the correct place.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:11 pm

bharris22 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:56 pm OK - thanks. I agree that it shouldn't matter whether you are using a VST2 or VST3 plugin - the option to turn off auto-scaling should be there for both. Maybe I am not looking in the correct place.

It's all here and it indeed says it "doesn't apply to VST3 devices, which are scaled by default"

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... t-Windows-

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:23 pm

Yes, thanks. I saw that, but am wondering if "scaled by default" necessarily means that you can't select something other than the default - in other words, no scaling for VST3.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:32 pm

bharris22 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:23 pm Yes, thanks. I saw that, but am wondering if "scaled by default" necessarily means that you can't select something other than the default - in other words, no scaling for VST3.

Do you have any VST3 plugins from U-He or Arturia? Check if they're stretched or actually switch to the higher-res GUI and you'll have your answer. I'm betting on the latter. That's why I bugged Bitwig devs to add that option regardless whether plugin reports it's high-DPI aware or not. Let the user choose the best option for them.

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:30 pm

That is a good idea - I'll check it out. Thanks!

LB0ND · Post by **LB0ND** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:02 pm

The options to disable auto-scale on VST3 has now been added with 10.1.2 so you can now disable just like your VST2 plugins

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:04 pm

LB0ND wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:02 pm The options to disable auto-scale on VST3 has now been added with 10.1.2 so you can now disable just like your VST2 plugins

Ableton is really killing it with the updates since v10!

Wonder what happened?

Ableton 10 Auto-Scaling for VST3?