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Mr Zorro · Post by **Mr Zorro** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:25 pm

msvs wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:46 pm maybe there are effects on your master bus in avenger or on your kick channel in Cubase

That was my first thought so i initialized all effects but still the same problem

.Something else you can think of?

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:04 am

no, never heard of something like this.

Mr Zorro · Post by **Mr Zorro** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:41 pm

msvs wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:04 am no, never heard of something like this.

OK. It apparently is something wrong with your banks because when i make my own banks everything work ok. Is this something you will look at in a future update?

sircuit · Post by **sircuit** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:54 pm

Mr Zorro wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:41 pm
msvs wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:04 am no, never heard of something like this.
OK. It apparently is something wrong with your banks because when i make my own banks everything work ok. Is this something you will look at in a future update?

I don't have any custom banks and the first I opened from the Factory and routed to it's own buses really sounds identical. Either you're onto a bug, in which case make a video of it and send it to Rene, either you miss something (happens all the time to all of us) so it worth quadruple-checking the routing and the (clear) paths.

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:07 am

we have not just 100 customers or so. If there would be a problem on the Avenger side, there should be far more reports than just you... I really guess there is something wrong outside Avenger.

Mr Zorro · Post by **Mr Zorro** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:43 am

msvs wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:07 am we have not just 100 customers or so. If there would be a problem on the Avenger side, there should be far more reports than just you... I really guess there is something wrong outside Avenger.

Ok, but i dont understand why everything works when i do my own banks thru the same routing in the same arrangement.

I solved it now

. I drag the OSC away from the same zone as the drums in the zone section. Strange but works for me.

mxbf · Post by **mxbf** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:23 pm

anyone wanna point me in the direction of how to get the most out of Avenger? I see a lot of people say it's a great synth but I never really figured out why they like it so much. I paid like 200 bucks last year so I probably should actually try to understand the hubbub

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:27 pm

a good first step would be to actually read the manual or at least watch all tutorial videos. Then you understand what you can do

Razzia · Post by **Razzia** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:55 pm

mxbf wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:23 pm anyone wanna point me in the direction of how to get the most out of Avenger? I see a lot of people say it's a great synth but I never really figured out why they like it so much. I paid like 200 bucks last year so I probably should actually try to understand the hubbub

It can be pretty concisely summarized as: it lets you do almost anything you want.

So many limitations in most synthesizers. You can't route this here and that there, you can't have more than two filters, you can only have 3 effect slots, you need a different synth if you want to do FM or cross modulation or additive or sample manipulation or whatever, you only get so many mod sources or destinations, etc. etc. etc.

If you really wanted you could pretty much only ever use Avenger and very rarely run into a situation where you can't make x sound because it doesn't let you do y. It also might have the best arpeggiator in existence

Vertlain · Post by **Vertlain** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:08 am

Not sure if this is the best place, but here are my thoughts: Avenger would be great if it was working the way it should. I get a lag, often with simplest patches. The interface is lagging, not the sound (even on eco settings). As far as I know you can't type values for the parameters, and turning knobs precisely is often impossible, because it freezes the synth for 1-2 secs... Assigning the midi controller knob is a workaround, but it is a pain nonetheless. Never had that sort of problems with any other plugin.

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:15 am

@Vertlain
this sounds like your PC is not strong enough or maybe some things are not really configured
Avenger needs Power, also sometimes for "simple sounding" presets! I´ve found some "simple" which take over 35% of my old i7-3770K and ub to 57% for little "richer" ones, but most are running under 30% and very less under 20%
so info about your CPU and size of RAM maybe help to solve your problem

Vertlain · Post by **Vertlain** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:53 am

i5-8400 on quite solid mobo (msi z370 pc pro) and 16GB of ram... and it can freeze with presets using less than 5% of cpu (acording to avenger cpu meter, even less acording to reaper cpu meter). On simple preset with 2 oscs, one reverb and simple automation on filter, it can stutter or freeze EVEN when the synth isn't playing so cpu goes down to (or close to) 0. Never had this kind of problems and work with many popular power hogs (reaktor, serum, bazille etc). I'm almost sure it's a GUI thing, but can't be certain.

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:23 am

oh, that´s spooky

could you reproduce the bug?
if so, please name some presets so that can someone here check it with his/her system, thanks

mxbf · Post by **mxbf** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:04 pm

digging it way more after exploring it, only thing i'm a little pushed off by is the menu diving for modulation. its a tad finnicky with my mouse, but i get that in most other synths too like Synthmaster/Falcon. seems to be a common thing where i wish it was somehow faster, like it is in the new Lion synth from Unfiltered Audio that makes modulation very easy, or Hive.

Vertlain · Post by **Vertlain** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:56 pm

The Sarge! wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:23 am oh, that´s spooky

No need for irony. Looks like my mistake, it may not be Avenger's fault. I noticed that in Reaper when Avenger freezes, so does Reaper's uv meters, even though sound was still audible. So I installed vst host (vPlayer 2) and it looks like Avenger works just fine inside it, no freezing. Now I have to figure out why it doesn't want to cooperate with reaper. Time to whine in different topic :/

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