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BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:50 pm

AdvancedFollower wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:26 am Same here, I upgraded the plugins which were still under WUP to V11 via the website, and left the expired ones at V10. I installed the latest Waves Central and within a minuter or two, it had automatically removed the V10 versions of the updated plugins and installed the V11 versions, while leaving the remaining V10 plugins completely intact and functional.

My experience was a bit different. I acquired the Metafilter freebie awhile ago, but never installed/registered it. Figured this would be a good time to do it, so I installed Waves Central, and off I go. Piece of cake.

Except...all my other plugs [30 or so including a few signature bundles] are V. 9. Waves Central deleted them all with the Metafilter installation. So...re-downloaded V.9 and then used the Waves Central offline protocol to re-install my plugs from the V. 9 list. A PITA to be sure, but everything went smoothly. All my plugs are now back in my DAW, and I don't see a need to update/upgrade. Yet.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:30 pm

plexuss wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:29 pm
robotmonkey wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:23 pm
Izak Synthiemental wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm Yeah, but you don't need to renew "WUP" to use your plugins or am I missing something? Also, I highly doubt that Waves WUP policy is compliant with European Union (biggest market for Waves) consumer regulations! They would clearly lose if the matter became subject to legal scrutiny!
You don't have to renew WUP indeed. It's necessary only in certain cases. But then again, literally every developer asks you to pay for upgrades.
Now you're just lying. "literally every developer asks you to pay for upgrades" - incorrect. There are so many examples of devs that don't ask for paid upgrades...

Pretty much every developer will ask you to pay for version upgrade. There's obviously exceptions but generally the statement is still true. Usually the upgrade price is also significantly higher than paying WUP. Most companies have upgrade prices ranging from 29$ to 49$.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:51 pm

robotmonkey wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:30 pm
plexuss wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:29 pm
robotmonkey wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:23 pm
Izak Synthiemental wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm Yeah, but you don't need to renew "WUP" to use your plugins or am I missing something? Also, I highly doubt that Waves WUP policy is compliant with European Union (biggest market for Waves) consumer regulations! They would clearly lose if the matter became subject to legal scrutiny!
You don't have to renew WUP indeed. It's necessary only in certain cases. But then again, literally every developer asks you to pay for upgrades.
Now you're just lying. "literally every developer asks you to pay for upgrades" - incorrect. There are so many examples of devs that don't ask for paid upgrades...
Pretty much every developer will ask you to pay for version upgrade. There's obviously exceptions but generally the statement is still true. Usually the upgrade price is also significantly higher than paying WUP. Most companies have upgrade prices ranging from 29$ to 49$.

Well, that's only when there is an actual change to the plugin. As has been noted here, the Waves Ren plugs have a new skin. The rest of the plugs are exactly the same (as I understand it) EXCEPT that there may be some IOS compatibility issues. I can't recall any upgrade fees for any of my plugs when things went from x32 to x64. Waves keeps talking about compatibility. But if this is the only reason to update, I think the complainers have a point.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:58 pm

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Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:58 pm

AdvancedFollower wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:23 pm
Aloysius wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:51 am Had to resort to the offline installer because my download kept getting choked at 1 or 2%.

1. Made sure Waves Central was up to date.
2. Went to the Offline Installer Tab in Waves Central and browsed for Waves - 28.10.19.
3. Crucially, the Offline Installation Folder I had downloaded needed to be placed directly on the Desktop and not within another Folder on the Desktop. C:\Users\Aloysius\Desktop\Waves - 28.10.19
Did you try simply waiting it out? Mine also froze at 1% for a long time, then completed the remaining 99% very quickly. If you have a lot of plugins I imagine the freeze could last longer.

A couple of days was enough time imho.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:59 pm

BERFAB wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:51 pm Well, that's only when there is an actual change to the plugin. As has been noted here, the Waves Ren plugs have a new skin. The rest of the plugs are exactly the same (as I understand it) EXCEPT that there may be some IOS compatibility issues. I can't recall any upgrade fees for any of my plugs when things went from x32 to x64. Waves keeps talking about compatibility. But if this is the only reason to update, I think the complainers have a point.

Actually, unlike with V10, this time the release notes are quite long with fixes and improvements overall (like faster loading of plugins, additional presets etc). That said, it's still not that appealing that I would want to upgrade WUP on all my plugins. But I probably will upgrade my RenMaxx bundle.

Wnws · Post by **Wnws** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:51 pm

Some bundles added a plugin. You have to weigh the cost per plugin added since the last WUP and if the plugin is of any use. My WUP is $240.00 for Mercury. The only added plugin since my WUP expired this past April is Submarine and Mushroom. Thus I will wait for a WUP sale.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:54 pm

Wait until you come down off the Mushroom.

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:14 pm

jinotsuh wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:28 am
You may have duplicates that don't actually 'show', ie, you may have plugin 'x' which you purchased as a single, then later you purchased/upgraded to a Bundle which also contains plugin 'x'. Make sure you aren't selecting any plugs that are 'also' contained in a selected bundle.

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Yes that was it. I had duplicate copies of Hybrid Verb and Delay and a couple of others that I don't remember buying outside of the bundles that I had. Thanks for the tip. Much appreciated.

Grumbleweed · Post by **Grumbleweed** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:09 am

I've just undated Waves Central along with a small amount of plug-ins that I have version 11 licenses.
Unfortunately now when I try to open Bass Fingers (standalone) it opens a box asking me to "Select Waves Bass Fingers Plug-Ins folder".
I have fiddled around looking in the various Waves folders and can find the "Bass Fingers Bundle" but that isn't deep enough for it to open to program.
Any help would be appreciated.

Grum.
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Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:17 am

Go to ''Settings'' in waves central to see your ''Locations''.

Sample libraries data folder

Grumbleweed · Post by **Grumbleweed** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:31 am

Aloysius wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:17 am Go to ''Settings'' in waves central to see your ''Locations''.

Sample libraries data folder

I don't think it is asking for the sample library folder - I tried that first and it wasn't interested (plus it isn't asking for the location of the samples).

Grum

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:46 am

Ah, ok. Never heard of "Bass Fingers Bundle".

Grumbleweed · Post by **Grumbleweed** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:29 pm

Aloysius wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:46 am Ah, ok. Never heard of "Bass Fingers Bundle".

It's ok now - I read the Waves Support pages and I was going too far in finding the plug-in, you stop at the top level V11 folder rather than go into it.
Life is a learning process

Grum.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:36 pm

I had a few problems myself with the upgrade. I learnt a lot.

Waves announce V11...