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Get the old disclaimer in first: I'm not affiliated with Help Musicians UK in anyway, OR Kris Weston (ex - The Orb). Also, this post is totally unsolicited. I've never spoken to Help Musicians UK and it's been years since I last spoke to Kris (I do know him). Kris has no idea I'm putting this up here.

Here is the Help Musicians UK website:

https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/

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They do support work that changes lives and careers. If you are a musician in the UK needing advice on something, maybe they can point you in the right direction. They don't just provide lip service. They do real work, where they can, of course - no one is a miracle worker.

They try to help out with many things. One being:


Health & Wellbeing

Advice on staying well and getting help and treatment for illness, accident and physical or mental performance problems. Help for disabled musicians.


Disabilities come in many forms. Some are 'invisible'. Autism Spectrum Disorder can range from barely perceptible to needing serious support. And all the points inbetween. Usually those most far along the spectrum get the most support, while those just touching on it usually get abuse. There's a couple of reasons for this, and let's not get in to all that here, for the moment, at least. Hopefully it doesn't need to be stressed that this is not a competition.

There are many aspects of Autism Spectrum Disorder which are counter-intuitive. Many people are not diagnosed at all and many who are, are only diagnosed later in life. While they try to make sense of the bombsite their life has become. Often quite intelligent people, rarely breaking the law (honesty is of paramount importance to autistic people) and with only the best of intentions, they try to piece together the bits of their life that went before to make sense of their present, and hopefully, make a plan for their future. They, like most people, don't exist in a vacuum. Though social isolation/exclusion is very common.

What most people don't realise is that it's not a case of the 'autist' just being a bit sensitive. It's neurological in nature and affects the senses on the deepest level. Loud sounds seem LOUDER. Bright lights seem BRIGHTER. And quite often the condition is 'co-morbid' with other conditions such as Dyspraxia. But also many other conditions which may exist on their own and need understanding in their own right due to their extreme complexity.

These are just my words. I'm not a professional in any sense. Though I do have a better than average layman's understanding in a 'general' sense with regard to all of this 'stuff'. Don't listen to me though...

There's a few people on this site who post who are on the spectrum. Whether they realise it or not or have been diagnosed or not. I imagine a few have, and like to keep it quiet, not least because of the stigma attached. That's ok.

There's no shame in having a neurological condition that is through no fault of your own. It would be like blaming someone for being born without a limb, or being born blind. It just doesn't make any sense logically, if nothing else.

But people will judge you, they will look down on you, they will shun you and they will take advantage of you. This is the game. It's beyond the scope of this post. But no harm in 'keeping it real'.

Yeah, 'keeping it real' - whatever that means.

One person that has been 'keeping it real' in the truest and most profound sense of the phrase is Kris Weston (Yeah, ex - The Orb - last time we'll mention that now you got the reference).

Kris is a musical genius. He's got some serious credits to his portfolio. He's produced/engineered/played on some of the greatest records in recent history. He's not a blow-hard. He's not a braggard. But he doesn't suffer fools. And this is just my personal opinion (not knowing him very much) that maybe even if he did read that book 'How to win friends...' it still wouldn't have helped him very much. He's a straight-talker. Theres no BS with him. At all.

And that offends some people sometimes when you are expected to play the game. Quid pro quo. I'm just going to stop here. Little of what I say has any value, other than to lay a bit of groundwork, hopefully.

So Kris got in to a bit of a tight spot, and he reached out to Help Musicians UK. And it was from here that he finally got someone to give him a bit of help and finally get a 'diagnosis'. Seems like the old lightbulbs went on in the old 'gulliver'. But I won't regale his story or tale more than that. He does it so much better himself. With rare honesty and much personal insight (autistic people are not supposed to be self-aware, though many are, painfully so) he patches out his recent strange journey. And he does it with wit and not a little bad language. He certainly does it with humor. And most importantly of all - with no self-pity. He is just a man trying to understand himself and this crazy mixed up world we all live in.

You should go over to his blog:

https://krisweston.com


You can skip to his autism diagnosis here:

https://krisweston.com/my-autism-diagnosis/


It's all out there. Without shame, without pathos. Always with the foul-mouthed wise cracks.

I've been studying autism for many years, and without doubt, his portrayal and 'laying all the cards on the table with it all', is probably the closest to the bone and most elucidating erudition you will find. Go read it for yourself. Whether you suspect you might be a bit on the 'spectrum' yourself, or maybe someone else that you know or love. Or just for the hell of it, to realise that there are people wandering around out there that think differently and act differently to YOU. In psychology it's called 'theory of mind'.

This post is getting long now, and we haven't even got to the good stuff. I'm going to grab another beer...

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So, with a bit of help from 'Help Musicians UK', Kris is kind of getting back on his feet again and looking to make some more of that genius music.

You can join his Patreon for as little as $1 a month iirc. Let me see...

Commit to a year on this project on whatever level you can afford, only afford a dollar a month? get onboard anyway, get 31gig of stuff, and all the outlines of how I am creating the tracks, including designing new electronic devices to achieve certain sounds. If you got more than a dollar then anything is appreciated. Every time I get a new idea you will hear it through the posts section, I will be creating a studio and album while you finance me.


:o

Over 30 'gigs'!

:love:

I signed up not too long ago and I have to say I'm really looking forward to diving in to this little treasure trove. This 'almost lost' relic (that's the music, not Kris, though now I come to think about it...)

And while it won't get you Kris's personal mobile number (does he even have a mobile?), it will get you his 'ear'. Just don't be a twat, because if you are...

I'm glad that things are almost working out for Kris. I'm glad there's organisations out there like Help Musicians UK, to help people like Kris. Go to their website to see some of the good they have done. Maybe not made anyone rich and famous yet, but seem to have helped a few folk out of a tight spot. https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/get-advice

I interacted with Kris a few years ago. I don't think it was the best time in his life and it certainly wasn't in mine. Death, disease, destruction. There was also a downside!

I loaned him a bit of equipment for him to try and get his new album together. Things worked well for a while. Then they didn't. Our misfortunes seemed to coincide. We didn't leave on the best of terms. But I got all my equipment back in one piece. Well, just about. I did get one box packed up and padded with old Cheese and Onion crisp packets and empty Mars bar wrappers, oh and receipts to Waitrose for 'Chicken Tikka Masalas' and 'Popadoms'. God knows why. I don't have them anymore. I sold them on eBay to obsessive Orb fans (there's a seeker born every minute).

:tu:

But apart from that!

:party:


We don't speak anymore!

By the way, if you are feeling generous or just want to protect your initial investments in sunk cost in to the Patreon, then you could do worse than to have a look at his Kickstarter too - in for a penny, in for a pound!

It's called 'Donkeys in Paradise'. Kris has a deep love of Donkeys, as anyone who has followed his blog previously will know.

(Paging donkey tugger, paging donkey tugger)


https://www.gofundme.com/f/donkeys-in-paradise

He's trying to kick up 10K. I'll let him explain to you why.

I chucked a coupla quid in to the cause. It may not get him what he wants. And he probably won't get what he deserves. But maybe, even if it all goes 'Pete Tong' again, he can grab himself a few packets of Cheese and Onion f**king crisps and a frozen Chicken Tikka Masala (with Popadoms), so he at least doesn't starve to death.

Dat boy's gonna get rich or die tryin' fo shizzle!

I don't think he'll mind me linking his other new pipe dream here:

https://croftingnature.com/

That's also a right good read (only discovered it tonight). I hope it all works out for him.

It's time to make things right!


[One last time - Kris doesn't know I'm posting this. I haven't talked to him in years (not since he left those f**king Cheese and Onion crisp packets in my KRK speaker box he sent back anyway - some of them were only half empty! - no wonder no one likes him!)]

:hug:



Oh and a final little quick shout-out to our very own Hink, who works with kids on the spectrum in real life.

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I couldn't resist it.

It was like finding the lost works of Leonardo da Vinci in your basement cellar (minus all the packets of half-eaten Cheese and Onion crisps).

You want to sample it, taste it. But you know you don't want to even try to comprehend it all in one go. So you just take a little sip...

I'm less than 10 minutes in. The visuals are astounding. I did not expect that little show on top. They provide a synergy.

This is great work. At least on a par with whatever The Orb did back then. But probably much better! I can understand now why Kris said "it wasn't very good", when he spoke of his old band.

I think he might have 'sampled' the visuals. He probably hasn't sampled the audio, that much is for sure.

This is just ambient work. No beats here. Not yet.

It's evolving, multi-dimensional, hypnotic, strange, familiar, and very nice too!

I'd love to rip just a minute or two and put it up on youtube!

:hyper:

But apart from Kris knowing my home address and probably sending down a heard of Scottish Donkeys to trample me to death if I did, this work deserves to be listened to in its entirety. One go. It's special.

It just finished and I'm astounded how good this is.

And all for $1 a month.

And I got another 30 gigs to go yet!

:party:



Also, another little shout out to Lisa Lovebucket who was the first Patreon sub to Kris. Bringing underground music to the masses, way back when.

All hail Eris!

J Saul Kane thanks you.

30 years earlier:




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