KVR Audio

c_voltage · Post by **c_voltage** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:25 pm

wavesfactory wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:38 pm In the next update the pro/home/micro switches will be automatable.

Thanks ! Good.

wavesfactory wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:38 pm The re-cassette parameter is very CPU intensive because it's like having up to 4 cassette effects stacked.

Yes it understandable (let it be so, would not want to sacrifice quality through some simplification, this is some special case).

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:27 pm

Sounds great! Any chance of something like a Dolby NR switch? Usually left it off even if the cassette said it had it, tended to muffle high freqs too much on my consumer-grade boombox (won it via a robotics competition, was borrowing my dad's ancient dictaphone before that).

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:25 am

It's nice because it's so dynamic. It's not just a static balanced EQ curve and fixed saturation - everything is dynamic according to Plugin Doctor. Sounds it. If you turn up the various artifacts it makes some nice flanging sounds using the mix control. I am thinking of using it as a final effect on the master of one of my tracks. I think it benefits from the flanging, although most tracks wouldn't. If I do I'll post.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:43 am

Oh man, I've got to have this in my plugin folder!

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:54 am

I've seen quite a few "cheap cassette" emulators, but so far they've either fallen into a category of "too subtle", or "gimmick". My favorites so far were XLN RC-20 and Tone Boosters ReelBus 4. My problem with RC-20 was that it gets too obviously LFO-ish if you crank up the wow and flutter, while ReelBus is IMO too well behaved and doesn't destroy the sound as much. I've gotten good results by combining the two, but it's a hassle to set up and tweak.

This plug-in suffers from neither of the above shortcomings, as it can go from subtle to over the top mayhem and its randomization appears to be much better implemented and much less repetitive than one in RC-20, and it has a few very unique tricks up its sleeve as well. Nice!

JerGoertz · Post by **JerGoertz** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:06 am

Burillo wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:54 am I've seen quite a few "cheap cassette" emulators, but so far they've either fallen into a category of "too subtle", or "gimmick". My favorites so far were XLN RC-20 and Tone Boosters ReelBus 4. My problem with RC-20 was that it gets too obviously LFO-ish if you crank up the wow and flutter, while ReelBus is IMO too well behaved and doesn't destroy the sound as much. I've gotten good results by combining the two, but it's a hassle to set up and tweak.

This plug-in suffers from neither of the above shortcomings, as it can go from subtle to over the top mayhem and its randomization appears to be much better implemented and much less repetitive than one in RC-20, and it has a few very unique tricks up its sleeve as well. Nice!

Oh yes, my (admittedly) limited experience with this indicates it's something "special" in the realm of degraded-old-messed-up tape simulations. Very impressed so far.

(Another one that's, in my opinion, better than average here is Softube's Tape. The side-panel control lets you get funky with the W&F and it sounds authentic to these ears.)

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:07 am

Okay, I give up. This I need. This I want.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:06 am

I think of this plugin more as a tool for source manuipulation more-so than a defacto cassette emulation. I've worked a lot with cassette. This plugin sounds cassette-ish. But to me it's more of a general purpose dirtying/gluing/bending tool.

I find running a test tone like 1kHz sine through it gives a good idea of what all the parameters do and its effect on the sound. With more complex sources it's harder to hear the details. Once I understand what it does with a clean test tone I can better adjust it when working with real sources.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:16 am

The audio demos sound great! Will have to try it out.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:23 am

Here's a little demo. a mix run through Cassette with settings dialed in to the mix. And "dry" without cassette. Loudness matched.

https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/se ... te/s-IQUnc

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:48 am

Gotta disagree with the comment about RC-20. If one doesn't get on with the sound of its wow and flutter, just turn it off or have only a small amount of it mixed in.

RC-20 is one of my all-time favorites and I think it would be a perfect complement to Cassette.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:34 am

If you RTFM they talk about wanting the plugin to be fun. I have to say, its a lot of fun! I am now having fun with titling cassettes and texting them to my friends. The cassette label gets a stylized cassette label with the track title. Pretty cool. Lots of fun. and the plugin itself is a lot of fun just to see what can be mangled and still sound cool. lots of variation. pretty realistic based my cassette experience. Just so you know, I couldn't afford reel-to-reel up to about 1989 and once I got reel-to-reel I would also master to cassette for replication. I've been through a lot of decks, tapes and projects. Cassette is actually pretty accurate. In the example I posted to my ears sounds like a cassette. a bad one, played on a different deck it was recorded on. but it has a nice character just the same. also like how the artifacts affect the introduction. nice plugin.

adl · Post by **adl** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:42 am

Anybody want to compared this to Wow Control by goodhertz? I personally use RC 20 and Wow Control in combination, sometimes even with a bit of izotope vinyl but this plugin looks great and the (intro) price is pretty good. Guess I have to demo myself, just was wondering if anybody compared those two already.

ilmai · Post by **ilmai** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:06 am

...a few months ago I was like pfft who needs a cassette plugin.

Today, I have two (bought SketchCassette when it was released). Great job Wavesfactory, I love all your plugins!

Here's a small demo of various tape plugins I made yesterday. Not trying to match settings, just adjusted every plugin to taste. Unfortunately doesn't include Wow Control since Goodhertz demos are time-limited and I have already spent my trial period in the past. Also doesn't include Reelbus or Satin since they're too nice.

https://clyp.it/dsf5zek0

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:22 am

adl wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:42 am Anybody want to compared this to Wow Control by goodhertz? I personally use RC 20 and Wow Control in combination, sometimes even with a bit of izotope vinyl but this plugin looks great and the (intro) price is pretty good. Guess I have to demo myself, just was wondering if anybody compared those two already.

My opinion: Wow Control is not as "sophisticated" as Cassette - Cassette has more control over artifacts. Wow Control has a darker sound. Tough to qualify... Cassette is closer to real cassette and the artifacts of of the tape signal path. Wow Control is a motion effect based on the spirit of tape. Does that help?

Wavesfactory releases Cassette