Ujam Virtual Guitarist Carbon
- KVRist
- 282 posts since 24 Aug, 2017
Tried it but it sounds very robotic. It doesn’t sound like it has any round robins and the riffs are heavily quantized. Another limitation is that it doesn’t have an amp bypass function. This could of course be the right sound for some. Don’t get me wrong, I have 3 of their previous products and loved the old Steinberg virtual guitarist plugin. Native instruments session guitarist is currently the one to beat in this category (loops).
- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
The playback of the riffs can be adjusted to sound somewhat more (or less) "human-like" by adjusting parameters in the "Micro Timing" dialog:
I believe those parameters can be automated with MIDI learn.
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- Topic Starter
- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
You mean accurate? Surely that's preferable to sounding human/sloppy?
Why would it have round robins when it is having the shit squeezed out of it by the amp sim? It would be a complete and utter waste of time.It doesn’t sound like it has any round robins and the riffs are heavily quantized.
Yes, exactly. That's why it is just one of several very different plugins in the Virtual Guitar series. It is geared towards a specific type of sound.Another limitation is that it doesn’t have an amp bypass function. This could of course be the right sound for some.
That's more a jack-of-all-trades, similar to VG Sparkle, but it only comes with 154 preset patterns. I'm not sure how many you get in VG Carbon but VG Iron has over 1000. NI's thing doesn't really cover the same sonic territory as VG Carbon, either. Sure, you could run it through Rammfire in Guitar Rig but the convenience of having it all in one place and so easy to use makes VG Carbon a much better option, I reckon. It also saves you a lot of money.Don’t get me wrong, I have 3 of their previous products and loved the old Steinberg virtual guitarist plugin. Native instruments session guitarist is currently the one to beat in this category (loops).
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
I calculated it to be 567 distinct preset patterns (draggable as MIDI), two of those being the common "halt-playback" patterns. The seventeen common patterns repeat in each of the fifty styles (which each contain eleven presets), so I only counted them once.BONES wrote:I'm not sure how many [preset patterns] you get in VG Carbon ...
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- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Slow day? I was only willing to read it off Ujam's site.
Yes, they can (although I'm not sure why you'd need MIDI learn to achieve it). I was doing exactly that with VG-Iron last night - start off at half-speed, go to normal speed in the chorus and eventually to double speed at the end. THat's as good as having every pattern three times.
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
Zero-G has a Kontakt library called "Inspiring Guitars", that boasts 3000 riffs and loops representing many styles and genres.
I prefer guitar virtual instruments that let you edit the individual notes of the performance in the MIDI domain; that is why Carbon with its new "Instrument Mode" grabbed my attention. I wonder if UJAM's other Virtual Guitarist entries will be updated with the "Instrument Mode".
I prefer guitar virtual instruments that let you edit the individual notes of the performance in the MIDI domain; that is why Carbon with its new "Instrument Mode" grabbed my attention. I wonder if UJAM's other Virtual Guitarist entries will be updated with the "Instrument Mode".
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- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
I doubt it. It has been in their VB-Rowdy bass instrument for a while.
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
I guess you could say that. Last Sunday evening, I dragged out each of Carbon's preset patterns to a MIDI file (in the key of C), so I could study them and hear how they sounded when played back through my other guitar VIs.BONES wrote:Slow day?
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
Does VB-Rowdy let you drag the patterns out as MIDI?BONES wrote:I doubt it. It has been in their VB-Rowdy bass instrument for a while.
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- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Don't know, dragging isn't something I would ever even think to try and I have hardly touched Rowdy. I bought it when it was on sale because I know I will find some use for it when I get around to it but that time has not yet arrived.
I have, however, found some time tonight to play around properly with Carbon and holy cow! It is so much more versatile than VG Iron. The effects (Mode & Finisher) on the right side add several new dimensions to it's usefulness. But you have to take your time because the Finisher knob does different things, depending on which mode you choose. e.g. It's a cutoff knob with the filters, wet-dry mix with the delays, etc.
The other neat little trick I learned is to use the "End" keys to give parts a nice, natural finish. With C# you get a full-on decay and with D# you get a muted decay. It's very cool. With all these extra features it makes the other VG plugins seem over-priced.
I have, however, found some time tonight to play around properly with Carbon and holy cow! It is so much more versatile than VG Iron. The effects (Mode & Finisher) on the right side add several new dimensions to it's usefulness. But you have to take your time because the Finisher knob does different things, depending on which mode you choose. e.g. It's a cutoff knob with the filters, wet-dry mix with the delays, etc.
The other neat little trick I learned is to use the "End" keys to give parts a nice, natural finish. With C# you get a full-on decay and with D# you get a muted decay. It's very cool. With all these extra features it makes the other VG plugins seem over-priced.
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Well, as far as I understood it there was only one place that ferrets were supposed to be:BONES wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:53 amYeah, my ferrets would have been the same. They could never resist rubber. (Who can, eh?)el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:17 pm... if I'd had my Seaboard at the time, he'd never have been allowed anywhere near it. I reckon he'd have clawed himself through that squidgy surface within minutes of seeing it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret-legging
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- KVRian
- 1463 posts since 10 Jul, 2018
I got VG Iron for free for having a Focusrite audio interface. I think that promotion just ended today.tonedef71 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:52 amAh yes, the Virtual Guitarist VI was included as part of last summer's 50% sale; somehow I did not notice that when I first saw it listed at Rekkerd.
A 50% off discount would bring the price down to around $65. That is much better, but I would still prefer if it could be had for a significantly cheaper price than that.
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- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Yeah, I already had it when that went live. I got Eden out of it, though, which I had been about to spend money on. Eden is good for putting a quick drum track in while you are experimenting with other stuff, I find it very handy.
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:38 amBONES wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:53 amIt's a stupid sport because most ferrets will just go to sleep as soon as you put them in a dark place like that. You might get your knob nipped a couple of times but if you don't react, they lose interest pretty quickly.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:17 pmWell, as far as I understood it there was only one place that ferrets were supposed to be:
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Oh, that’s why it’s a stupid sport!BONES wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:45 amIt's a stupid sport because most ferrets will just go to sleep as soon as you put them in a dark place like that.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:38 am Well, as far as I understood it there was only one place that ferrets were supposed to be:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret-legging
A couple of nips is all I need
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- KVRian
- 1463 posts since 10 Jul, 2018
Focusrite's free VG Iron promotion has been extended: "Access the offer by registering your hardware and setting up a Focusrite account before 14h November". Also includes 30% off the guitar bundle. (Owning VG Iron reduces Carbon's price to $100, and owning the bundle reduces it to $50.)