FL Studio vs Bitwig

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102 posts since 4 Apr, 2017

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:04 pm

Im getting ready to buy one or the other today. I want to know your opinion on which one works better for trap music products. I always thought when it comes to producing trap/rnb that FL was way above all other Daws, but i downloaded the demo of bitwig, and i was blew back by how easy it is to come up with sounds. Has anyone here used both, and whats your opinion?
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KVRAF
2777 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:32 pm

I have and use both. It doesn't depend on genre you produce, it'd all about your personal preferences. I use BWS more since it suits me better, but I really like FLS too since it forces me to think differently. Also lifetime free updates are nice.

But demo demo and demo some more and then decide, which one suits your workflow better and gives you the results you want, how you want and when you want.

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KVRian
902 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:40 pm

Depends on your preference, for me personally FL have nothing to offer over Bitwig, I'm more into Drum Machine rack and my drum pads than penciling notes in FL's step sequencer, also into playing opposed to again penciling all in piano roll, so again, FL's famous piano roll does nothing for me.

What does it for me is addition of fast Browser, Clip Launching area and touch screen on top of all that massive creative fun, but than again, I like to jam and interact more opposed to just enter values and hack my way out.
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KVRian
1416 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:29 pm

FWIW.. I tried and really got into FL. (I am a cubase user). The DAW is amazing and has very fast workflow.

Sorry, no experience with Bitwig. I have a lite license I might try out over holidays if I have time.
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KVRAF
4061 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:46 pm

For me FLS has everything I need from a DAW but ARA.
It's missing no features that are on my list other than ARA
Nearly perfect DAW in my opinion.
Sorry know very little about Bitwig for me me it is missing a few features I require.

So now have retreated to Studio One 4.5 but Reaper and then Cubase are my go to DAW's as they all have ARA.
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antic604
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3049 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 pm

Try to make a (draft) track in both and see for yourself. Peronally I've tried FL several times and I just can't work in it - too much multi-level menus everywhere, the relations of patterns, playlist and mixer is confusing (sort of fixed in 20, but still…), I really hate the GUI and the fact that it is defacto associated with trap music that I despise (sorry...). But I've also heard AWESOME music done in it so I guess the tool doesn't really matter - it's how you use it.
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JunSev
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817 posts since 14 Sep, 2017

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:23 am

I think that you really need to test by yourself and learn both if possible. The problem you might find (even despite you might find some answers) is a lot of biased advises like "come on... use this one, buy this product"... and you have to be careful with all of that.

For instance, I dislike completely the $170 a year for updates bitwig is asking and how overhyped is.

Also I have seen fl studio more associated with house, garage, rap, d&b ext. So you can see how different opinions and feeling are.

Demo for yourself and see what's the best for you, there are advises you should follow and others you should ignore; watch some videos if there is something you don't understand or read both manuals.

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KVRAF
2579 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:35 am

I'm using FL just because of its scale highlighting feature and because Bitwig switched on the vent fan of my mac instantly (independently of its CPU consumption)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDLgHrvsB4
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antic604
KVRAF
3049 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:41 am

JunSev wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:23 am
The problem you might find (even despite you might find some answers) is a lot of biased advises like "come on... use this one, buy this product"... and you have to be careful with all of that.

For instance, I dislike completely the $170 a year for updates bitwig is asking and how overhyped is.
So true! ;) Like all those people going around the internet you have to pay $169 a year for Bitwig, where in fact throughout the year you can get it for $129 AND that you DON'T have to upgrade every year - you can renew the plan only when cumulative features added since the last version you own (forever) justify it. Like now - I have 3.03 full working and 3.1 was JUST announced, but I probably won't apply my extension code that I bought at $129 during the summer, because I don't need those features and will probably wait until 3.2 or 3.3.

It's not a subscription, ok??
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antic604
KVRAF
3049 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:42 am

xbitz wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:35 am
I'm using FL just because of its scale highlighting feature and because Bitwig switched on the vent fan of my mac instantly (independently of its CPU consumption)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDLgHrvsB4
The just announced 3.1 apparently reduces GPU load :)

https://downloads-eu.bitwig.com/beta/3. ... 1568282952
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other stuff - Psytrance in Bitwig Studio tutorial

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KVRAF
4243 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:52 am

I like and use most DAWS, they all have there pro's and con's. The only 2 mainstream DAWS I realy dont get on with personally are Reason and FL Studio...its just a personal thing, I just dont click with the GUI or workflow and as someone who predominantly records live singers/guitar etc I dont think I am the target market.

I do use BWS for experimental sound design and with a couple of ES8's to run my modular...BWS, Live, Reason and probably FL (I doint realy know enough about it to comment) may also be considered specialist or gender specific tools unlike the mainstream 'you can record a 10 piece skiffle band with this' Linier DAWS....

As has been suggested, you realy need to decide what it is you want to write/produce/record and then use the tools available to see what clicks with you, they are all amazing and can make great music in the right hands (and visa versa!)
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foosnark
KVRAF
4961 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:36 am

I used FL Studio for years. I think it's kind of become a mess of legacy code and designs with more modern stuff layered on top of it. I honestly haven't looked at the most recent version though, so maybe it got some cleanup?

I moved from FL Studio to Maschine (as my only DAW, not as a plugin in another DAW), and stuck with Maschine a while even though I moved to more experimental and dark ambient music, simply because I was familiar and comfortable with it and could really fly around it compared to FLS.

I converted to Bitwig a couple months ago and it's perfect for me, and super flexible... I think it's probably got something to offer most people regardless of genre.

FL Studio is cheaper, but Bitwig is just better in every way as far as I'm concerned. Of course DAWs are highly subjective :)

xbitz
KVRAF
2579 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:35 am

FL hasn't got clips (launcher) based workflow, so if you would prefer this workflow choose BWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPHI-BHKk8o
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antic604
KVRAF
3049 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:56 am

xbitz wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:35 am
FL hasn't got clips (launcher) based workflow, so if you would prefer this workflow choose BWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPHI-BHKk8o
So what's that then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u7E-L0b_Ks
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LoveEnigma18
KVRian
1302 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: FL Studio vs Bitwig

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:58 am

FL Studio. Hands down. Head up.

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