Are some of East West Symphony orchestra demos fake?

[bill45]

I think there are a lot of level heads here.

[v1o]

Maybe you should contact the composer via twitter, I see no reason why he/she won't be forthcoming.

[chk071]

"Are some of company XY's demos fake?"
"Are company XY's support employees lying?"

I see a certain trend here.

Poor customer. Corporate evil behind ever corner.

[Bockbier]

I think you got it the wrong way around, pretty sure the TSFH releases are still samples only and weren't re-recorded with live orchestra.

[whyterabbyt]

I just analyzed your post and when you joined KVR.

Did your parents ever thought you reading the rules and follow them accordingly? Because this thread belong not in the instruments section...

either:

Getting Started or Sampled Libraries

I have noticed you persistently bump your for sale thread within the 48 hour time period. Since you're being particular about reading the rules and following them accordingly, can you please do so yourself?

[Elektronisch]

I just analyzed your post and when you joined KVR.

Did your parents ever thought you reading the rules and follow them accordingly? Because this thread belong not in the instruments section...

either:

Getting Started or Sampled Libraries

I have noticed you persistently bump your for sale thread within the 48 hour time period. Since you're being particular about reading the rules and following them accordingly, can you please do so yourself?

Then you should check your eyes, because i do not and shut your mouth with lies? Idiot.

[Elektronisch]

I just analyzed your post and when you joined KVR.

Did your parents ever thought you reading the rules and follow them accordingly? Because this thread belong not in the instruments section...

either:

Getting Started or Sampled Libraries

Any on topic comment?

Because yours is offtopic, you can consider i just gave one

East West Hollywood Orchestra is a bundle - library + virtual instrument sampler "Play". So we can argue about that

Yet you are talking about the sample library not the "play" instrument. So

[whyterabbyt]

I just analyzed your post and when you joined KVR.

Did your parents ever thought you reading the rules and follow them accordingly? Because this thread belong not in the instruments section...

either:

Getting Started or Sampled Libraries

I have noticed you persistently bump your for sale thread within the 48 hour time period. Since you're being particular about reading the rules and following them accordingly, can you please do so yourself?

Then you should check your eyes, because i do not and shut your mouth with lies? Idiot.

Yes you do. From the last page alone:

bumped 22 Oct 2019 19:42 then 24 Oct 2019 18:05 = 1 day, 22 hours, 23 minutes (46 hours, 23m)
bumped 09 Nov 2019 19:49 then 11 Nov 2019 12:11 = 1 day, 16 hours, 22 minutes (40 hours, 22m)

And 2 or 3 times it looks like on the page before that.

The clue is in the fact that even though its two days later on a calendar, the hours/minutes time is earlier on the subsequent bump. (Just in case you didnt know how to calculate it...)

[JerGoertz]

Epstein didn't kill himself.

[whyterabbyt]

From page 18 of your sale thread

19 Sep 2019 08:32 -> 21 Sep 2019 07:56 : less than 48 hours
21 Sep 2019 07:56 -> 23 Sep 2019 06:35 : less than 48 hours
10 Oct 2019 09:34 -> 12 Oct 2019 06:21 : less than 48 hours

From page 17 of your sale thread

28 Aug 2019 09:09 -> 30 Aug 2019 05:52 : less than 48 hours
02 Sep 2019 13:25 -> 04 Sep 2019 13:18 : less than 48 hours
08 Sep 2019 13:50 -> 10 Sep 2019 07:54 : less than 48 hours
10 Sep 2019 07:54 -> 12 Sep 2019 07:11 : less than 48 hours
12 Sep 2019 07:11 -> 14 Sep 2019 06:05 : less than 48 hours

Right back to page 1 of your sale thread

27 Apr 2018 06:38 -> 29 Apr 2018 05:11 : less than 48 hours
03 May 2018 10:20 -> 05 May 2018 10:11 : less than 48 hours
05 May 2018 10:11 -> 07 May 2018 08:41 : less than 48 hours

[koolkeys]

EDIT: See below for updated post. Not sure why I posted the update in a different post.

[Elektronisch]

From page 18 of your sale thread

19 Sep 2019 08:32 -> 21 Sep 2019 07:56 : less than 48 hours
21 Sep 2019 07:56 -> 23 Sep 2019 06:35 : less than 48 hours
10 Oct 2019 09:34 -> 12 Oct 2019 06:21 : less than 48 hours

From page 17 of your sale thread

28 Aug 2019 09:09 -> 30 Aug 2019 05:52 : less than 48 hours
02 Sep 2019 13:25 -> 04 Sep 2019 13:18 : less than 48 hours
08 Sep 2019 13:50 -> 10 Sep 2019 07:54 : less than 48 hours
10 Sep 2019 07:54 -> 12 Sep 2019 07:11 : less than 48 hours
12 Sep 2019 07:11 -> 14 Sep 2019 06:05 : less than 48 hours

Right back to page 1 of your sale thread

27 Apr 2018 06:38 -> 29 Apr 2018 05:11 : less than 48 hours
03 May 2018 10:20 -> 05 May 2018 10:11 : less than 48 hours
05 May 2018 10:11 -> 07 May 2018 08:41 : less than 48 hours

Ok you are right, i have no deny. But its close enough right? But have i created another useless thread in each of those missed hours in not an apropriate place?

[koolkeys]

Ok, so back on topic.

So there are two explanation:
Either both versions of the same track are made by sample library or by real orchestra. From what I know, all albums of 2 Steps from Hell have been recorded using real orchestra. So I guess that demo tracks on EW demo page are not created by virtual orchestra

Maybe you are not aware of this, but Two Steps From Hell is founded by Nick Pheonix and Thomas Bergersen, and Thomas is the composer who did these songs.

And if you look on the EastWest Hollywood Orchestra page, you'll see the connection:

"Produced by DOUG ROGERS, NICK PHOENIX, AND THOMAS BERGERSEN"

I would assume the demos sound the same because it is logical that HO would be used on the actual tracks, considering the same guys are behind both. I'm guessing that there is a good chance they used the libraries they produced to do some tracks.

No conspiracy theory needed.

Brent

[whyterabbyt]

But its close enough right?

well, no. that's why I mentioned it.

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=529638

But have i created another useless thread in each of those missed hours in not an apropriate place?

Its not actually your decision as to what's appropriate, that's up to a moderator to decide. My point was that you're not really the best person at following the rules in the first place, so it'd be better if you just stuck to reporting such issues instead.

[poshook]

Ok, so back on topic.

So there are two explanation:
Either both versions of the same track are made by sample library or by real orchestra. From what I know, all albums of 2 Steps from Hell have been recorded using real orchestra. So I guess that demo tracks on EW demo page are not created by virtual orchestra

Maybe you are not aware of this, but Two Steps From Hell is founded by Nick Pheonix and Thomas Bergersen, and Thomas is the composer who did these songs.

And if you look on the EastWest Hollywood Orchestra page, you'll see the connection:

"Produced by DOUG ROGERS, NICK PHOENIX, AND THOMAS BERGERSEN"

I would assume the demos sound the same because it is logical that HO would be used on the actual tracks, considering the same guys are behind both. I'm guessing that there is a good chance they used the libraries they produced to do some tracks.

No conspiracy theory needed.

Brent

You are right. This option I missed as I thought that all of their releases have been recorded with real orchestra. It looks like it's not true. However I do not understand why the same tracks were processed differently (EQ and dynamics) on album and eastwest demo page. If they are identical pieces, that is a bit confusing.