KVR Audio

opiadream · Post by **opiadream** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:32 pm

I'm no pro but I use the 'blanket-hung-from-ceiling' method
I try to avoid the 'sss' problem by singing a bit over the mic

and then run it thru a noise gate to kill the background noise (which can be fiddly)
with a dash of verb to get some tail back
just a smidge

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:34 pm

Sepheritoh wrote:Good topic.

The only basic thing I learned about doing vocals is: If you can't sing - don't.

Can't contribute to the topic much more than that, sorry.

what not even with a star command buzzlightyear voice changer and loads of processing

i cant be that bad!

actually i am ive heard me

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:03 pm

RWA wrote:
Armadillo wrote:Let me point out that I'm far from an expert and I'm just as much looking for tips and tricks as well as providing them. As a matter of fact feel free to correct me if I'm completely wrong.
Seem like you DO know what you're doing. Or atleast did the proper research.

Well, I have recorded a song before, but I mostly fall under the research category to be honest.

rollasoc · Post by **rollasoc** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:08 am

I did some similar research over the summer and typed this up during my summer holiday (how sad is that)

Not a million miles from what you said.

http://www.hairthieves.com/tip/rec/vocals.htm

Rollasoc
http://www.hairthieves.com

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:24 am

rollasoc wrote:I did some similar research over the summer and typed this up during my summer holiday (how sad is that)

Not a million miles from what you said.

http://www.hairthieves.com/tip/rec/vocals.htm

Rollasoc
http://www.hairthieves.com

maybe your holiday ended abruptly?

"33. Spooky vocals. Send the vocal t" (sic)

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:26 am

I like my Voxengo Voxformer a lot!

simpletim · Post by **simpletim** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:39 am

I'm no great singer, but I sing. I think that a large part of the indie community would disagree with your sentiment. I love Wayne Coyne from the Flaming Lips, and he isn't a great singer, he just has a great sounding voice. (see: Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Jimi Hendrix). I would be careful to make any broad-brush judgements. But that's just me.

Emerald Tablet · Post by **Emerald Tablet** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:41 am

rent me

and make sure i don't use a oversensitive crap condensator mic but a simple sm58

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:48 am

paul_is_dead wrote:I'm no great singer, but I sing.

Me too. It's all about the emotion, silly!

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:19 pm

paul_is_dead wrote:I'm no great singer, but I sing. I think that a large part of the indie community would disagree with your sentiment. I love Wayne Coyne from the Flaming Lips, and he isn't a great singer, he just has a great sounding voice. (see: Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Jimi Hendrix). I would be careful to make any broad-brush judgements. But that's just me.

What comments? Did you not read this part.

Now I'm particularly interested in that heavily processed pop, RnB sort of vocal. It might not be a choice for purists, who like it all to be done in one great take, with no doubletracking, autotune etc. But I like my vocals like my synths: polished and everything chiselled to perfection. I know this might not be everyones cuppa but that's taking the vocal to the extreme. If you want less polished vocals, just skip a few points

Or are you talking about point no 1.; get a good singer. Well we might have different definitions of good/great/excellent. I'm sure most opera singer are "excellent" but I still think it sounds like crap

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:40 pm

what about fluids?
say your singer gets thirsty in those 2 hours or 20 takes
i heard milk is bad for the voice
a little water with lemon?
just water?

Code Red Mountain Dew?
seems like alcohol would be prohibited given possible intake over 2 hours could degrade the process (unless one was extensively conditioned)
southern comfort or triple distilled vodka?

my friend who has a recording studio in his basement is constantly buying and selling and trading microphones. seems like their the vsti of the audio realm.
he provides his singer with cranberry juice

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:56 pm

Great stuff Rollasoc. Point 23 was certainly interesting

Wrench: Cranberry juice eh. What if the singer doesn't like it? Do you pay them extra in order for them to drink it and tell them they can vomit when they get home

3mph · Post by **3mph** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:26 pm

This is not a tip, but I wouldn't couldn't without my popfilter. And yes, it's worth the money to buy an "official" one. K&M does a decent popfilter for a reasonable price.

Somebody once told me to use nylon stockings worn thin, but I think they take too much of the clarity at the top.

My $0.02

t-willy · Post by **t-willy** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:25 pm

ah singing. i keep a vaporizer, hot tea, lemon juice, water, chloroseptic spray, and more water on hand. i personally don't use any pop filters or any type of special acoustics when doing vocals. i would like to have my own vocal booth though

as far as effects go: reverb - used ever so slightly, compression of course - usually blockfish, shitloads of backing or harmonizing vocals and surround effects and panning. oh, and i love distortion on vocals sometimes as well.

i hate mixing vocals, its hard as hell to me.

lates

t-willy

Emerald Tablet · Post by **Emerald Tablet** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:30 pm

anything goes as long as you don't drown vox in verb like George Michael does

The "getting a pro vocal at home" thread