Behringer VSTs

[excuse me please]

@Mushy Mushy
I agree that my pevious comment was speculation. However, I will check next Wednesday.

[Mushy Mushy]

@Mushy Mushy
I agree that my pevious comment was speculation. However, I will check next Wednesday.

I reworded it to not make it sound so confrontational

[chk071]

They just hired all the fired engineers from NI.

Just wondering, but.. did Behringer confirm that? I dropped that earlier just as a speculation, and, someone posted that he also wrote it on the Gearslutz forum, which doesn't necessarily makes it true.

[Chapelle]

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[chk071]

Hahaha.

Well dug.

The "paradigms might have shifted" though, now that they hired some NI eomployees for their software department.

[AnX]

"We at Behringer do not believe in “virtual analog”, VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in."
- Uli Behringer, January 2018 (source: gearslutz.com)

maybe their VSTs won't be virtual analogue, still lots of options

[vurt]

or minds can be changed over 2 years nearly

[Urs]

"We at Behringer do not believe in “virtual analog”, VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in."
- Uli Behringer, January 2018 (source: gearslutz.com)

Yep, the quote that I had to think of a lot lately

[SLiC]

The K2 is #3 in sound modules, I think they’re selling just fine.
https://m.thomann.de/gb/cat_rank.html?a ... Key=TASYEX

Its amazing really, Thomann are a big store and Behringer are number 1, 2 and 3 (and 8 and 9) in sales for synths modules. That's domination from nowhere!

[AnX]

my guess is they have some stuff all ready to go.... I wouldn't be surprised if it was released in January 2020

[SLiC]

"We at Behringer do not believe in “virtual analog”, VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in."
- Uli Behringer, January 2018 (source: gearslutz.com)

Yep, the quote that I had to think of a lot lately

To be fair, Uli has done nothing to make me think he has change his mind...we have over half a dozen cheap analog synths and no virtual analog synths of any type from Behringer. There are a lot of types of synthesis to go at that don't use VA, or his VSTs may be FX as they already have them codes in there desks.

[DJ Warmonger]

"We at Behringer do not believe in “virtual analog”, VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in."
- Uli Behringer, January 2018 (source: gearslutz.com)

maybe their VSTs won't be virtual analogue, still lots of options

This. Behringer has built a number of analog recreations, but fully-blown digital synths are still on the table. I mean, how many times can you route saw and square through low-pass filter and sell it as a new product? There are many FM, additive, granular and completely-weird ass synths left and they come only in digital domain.

[fese]

The Behringer angle has always been the price. There are several reasons that they can do that with hardware: own production facility in China, economy of scale (don't produce niche products), in most countries their on distribution system etc.
Software, especially FX plugins are already dirt cheap. You can buy excellent stuff for under 50 bucks, similar quality plugins would've cost 150-200 ten years ago. Waves do regular $29 sales, and so on. Sure, some plugins which have little competition (Izotope e.g.) still cost more.
But good developers won't be happy to be paid what their chinese workers get. If they really employed ex-NI devs, they won't work for couple of hundred bucks a month.
So I am not sure where Behringer would fit in there. Plugins for $5? Instruments for 20?

[david.beholder]

"We at Behringer do not believe in “virtual analog”, we're just selling it"

Updated version.

Jokes aside, I guess they are going to fail this route. Analog HW market was looking for someone producing analog synths at affordable costs, nobody except Korg was doing it, SW market is way more saturated.

[sinemotor]

"We at Behringer do not believe in “virtual analog”, VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in."
- Uli Behringer, January 2018 (source: gearslutz.com)

Yes, it was the first thing I thought after seeing the post.

They will make a System-B. A hardware digital synth which controls software emulations of their analog synths...