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msvs wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:21 am being a preset oriented plugin, its working with lists, collumns and texts need more heigth instead of width. (same in a DAW... I cant understand people with 21:9 in a music studio. You need HEIGTH not width. I have 30" 16:10 but I would really prefer 4:3, but they are died out obviously). I have seen guys using the Pivot function with two monitors. Clever
But regarding N3, I already have some ideas to get the aspect ratio FREE in the future, so the collums will adapt their width. Then you can have whatever width you want. I would like this very much. N3 wont be stuck on 3.0. Of course there will be many minor free improvements in the near future.
We can have argument there.

I have to give you a point that indeed when a plugin is preset oriented height is more important in the brower, which is why some plugin developers like Omnisphere, Kontakt, Komplete Kontrol, Image-Line Flex (and probably others i havent mentioned) nailed it just by having presets on the side and not taking realestate in the middle which only expands the rest of controls to the sides, top and the bottom.

And you say you cant understand people with 21:9, i perfectly do because i have worked on such monitor and i cannot understand people who do not understand that it actually is very comfortable to work that way. You can see the inspector view, playlist and browser at the same time without scarificing the playlist lenght Other then that if you are a streamer with 16:9 its just not comfortable if you want to have your followers chat open on the side.

I hope you will understand that there are other people and see from their point of view, not only yours :)

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I find the whole notion that a plugin should adhere to the shape of your monitor bizarre. Very few plugins demand that I fill the screen with them. The areas they don't fill, I like to see.... other things! Crazy huh?

I did wonder though about the general point in sizing small being an issue, so that sounds interesting from Manuel. I'm really ok with the looks of UI in general - people seem to spend far too much time on aesthetics in my view and not enough on function - but if it can only be very big then that could be irksome.

My main UI-related issue from what I've seen I don't think anyone else has raised, which is the colour strip in the librarian not being lined up with what the colour bands actually represent. Given that you'll have to set up the tags how you want them on a case-by-case basis, I can't see how that can ever be anything other than confusing and cumbersome.
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And you say you cant understand people with 21:9, i perfectly do because i have worked on such monitor and i cannot understand people who do not understand that it actually is very comfortable to work that way
when you only can have 1 monitor I get your point. But having 2 monitors, it makes more sense you gain heigth, because you have more than enough width then. 2x 21:9 is a waste of space. 2x WQXGA 16:10 is the best thing you can do for making music imho. I would prefer this over 1x 21:9 4k anytime
I hope you will understand that there are other people and see from their point of view, not only yours
yes I do. And thats absolutely fine. But please understand that being a dev does not mean, I dont have a personal opinion and I can post it freely here like everyone else does. :hug:

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For DAW's i can definitely understand when you use your monitor in pivot mode. More height, more tracks. :)

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I use a tv as a monitor and plugins usually appear very big, specially some synths that take up the whole screen no matter how I adjust the settings. But for some reason nexus2 was like the only vst that always fitted perfectly

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chk071 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:27 am For DAW's i can definitely understand when you use your monitor in pivot mode. More height, more tracks. :)
Ehhm.. no. With timeline based sequencer there is no way i would ever go back to 4:3 or whatever. Complete nonsense. I also don't get the benefit that the plugin needs height because why again? I skip trough the presets with my controller and my ears.
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I use a couple of 32" QHD monitors. If I could buy 2560 x 2560 versions of those (or even 2560 x 1920), I'd shit my pants in delight.

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msvs wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:21 am ...You need HEIGTH not width. ...
Speak of yourself...
I couldn´t disagree more... as music is layed out in a horizontal timeline there is for me only one rule: the wider the better...
Wider means more content over time is visible, more mixer channels etc... there is no alternative
For horizontal overview most DAWs are well equiped with folding away other tracks ...

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Trancit wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:32 pm
msvs wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:21 am ...You need HEIGTH not width. ...
Speak of yourself...
I couldn´t disagree more... as music is layed out in a horizontal timeline there is for me only one rule: the wider the better...
Wider means more content over time is visible, more mixer channels etc... there is no alternative
For horizontal overview most DAWs are well equiped with folding away other tracks ...
+1 already been using 3 16:9 monitors and still feel I'd need more width for proper workflow.

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I think you're doing a bit of dramatizing and letting yourselves be fooled. Nexus3 has a better aspect ratio than Serum for example. Here is a screenshot with identical width. With the same depth, Nexus would use considerably more space:
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marzelli wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:00 pm +1 already been using 3 16:9 monitors and still feel I'd need more width for proper workflow.
Junkie XL uses s single main monitor (some 30+ inch, decent sized, no fancy 4K), a second monitor dedicated to the mixer and a touch screen (tablet) to access keyboard shortcuts in cubase.

If this guy can make movie scores in these conditions, we should all be able to make dance tracks on a single screen.

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sircuit wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:13 pm
marzelli wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:00 pm +1 already been using 3 16:9 monitors and still feel I'd need more width for proper workflow.
Junkie XL uses s single main monitor (some 30+ inch, decent sized, no fancy 4K), a second monitor dedicated to the mixer and a touch screen (tablet) to access keyboard shortcuts in cubase.

If this guy can make movie scores in these conditions, we should all be able to make dance tracks on a single screen.
Junkie XLs workflow isn't mine nor the one of probably the majority of other people. I have 2 monitors dedicated to the mixer when working with 100+ tracks and 1 for the arrangement. probably would spend a 4th one for editors and analyzers.

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mladi wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:17 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:27 am For DAW's i can definitely understand when you use your monitor in pivot mode. More height, more tracks. :)
Ehhm.. no. With timeline based sequencer there is no way i would ever go back to 4:3 or whatever. Complete nonsense.
Thanks.

It really depends on the resolution though (and scale of course). A big screen in pivot mode, with a big resolution lets you see lots of the timeline, and lots of tracks at the same time.

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Aaaaand pretty much identical to ANA 2, so stop crying:
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dat whataboutism. Ever considered they think those others aren't optimal either? Btw your last comparision still feels way different. All displays of ANA are wide, all is layout and optimized for horizontal. Nexus is focused on display heights and vertical controls layouts. I'd welcome Manuels idea of a completely free aspect ratio.

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