Wavesfactory releases Cassette

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foosnark
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5011 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:35 am

Teksonik wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:07 am
I think it's the opposite, people over a certain age who have actually had to record to cassette even 4 tracks or higher end rack mount units are wondering WhyTF is this.
Nope. My first recordings were on a Tascam Portastudio. It was a pain in the ass and I wished I could have recorded in perfect quality at the time, especially after bouncing multiple times.

But a plugin gives control over the character and removes the hassle. I can have just a little bit of tape mojo if I want, without it stacking up every time I add another part. I can have the saturation without any hiss, or I can automate the hiss with an envelope follower. I can slam the saturation and compression in parallel with the clean signal, or only on the side while the mid stays clean. I can apply it to one synth voice while the rest are clean. I can use a really dirty, bandpassed, mono tape sound for the intro and then widen everything out into the main part of the song.

It's like how distortion in an amp was a bad thing until guitarists turned it into a creative tool.

perpetual3
KVRian
1138 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 am

Can Cassette do anything Toneboosters Reelbus can’t?

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plexuss
KVRAF
3566 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:00 am

perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 am
Can Cassette do anything Toneboosters Reelbus can’t?
Realistically sound like a cassette.

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foosnark
KVRAF
5011 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:23 am

I feel like Cassette is easier to dial in than Reelbus, instantly satisfying and never really sounds wrong. I had to fiddle with Reelbus a lot to get it where I wanted for one of the tracks I tested it on, and never really got there on the other.

perpetual3
KVRian
1138 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:57 pm

plexuss wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:00 am
perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 am
Can Cassette do anything Toneboosters Reelbus can’t?
Realistically sound like a cassette.
So Reelbus has no model which sounds like cassette.

Ploki
KVRian
1268 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:12 pm

perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:57 pm

So Reelbus has no model which sounds like cassette.
doesnt look like it does.
I have u-he Satin which is a reel to reel tape sim.
Have worked both with real reel to reels and real cassettes and Wavesfactory is so much spot on for being a cassette that I won't bother looping through the deck anymore because it adds no real value (aside being fun from time to time)

big tapes are much more subtle than cassettes were. They were designed to be as faithful and clean as possible - cassettes were designed to be as compact and cost-effective as possible.

Butwug
KVRist
350 posts since 26 Oct, 2018

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:02 am

perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 am
Can Cassette do anything Toneboosters Reelbus can’t?
Cassette can sound like a cassette much better than any plugin Ive tried. Reelbus4/Satin aren’t cassette emulations but more what professional studios would record with. While similar theyre also different and if you have both, it wouldn’t be redundant. They fill in each others gaps nicely.

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ChamomileShark
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1714 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:22 am

I thought Reelbus was based on an Akai A3440 Reel2Reel ..Satin more generic but in the area of the Studer stuff.

Reels gets closer to the cassette sound because it's based on cheapo R2R which ran at lower speeds..

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plexuss
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3566 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:52 am

ChamomileShark wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:22 am
I thought Reelbus was based on an Akai A3440 Reel2Reel ..Satin more generic but in the area of the Studer stuff.

Reels gets closer to the cassette sound because it's based on cheapo R2R which ran at lower speeds..
Do you mean a TEAC A-3440? I happen to have one. :phones:

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ChamomileShark
KVRAF
1714 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:38 pm

that's right..Akai did one I think, can't remember what it was now..

I started with a ReVox A77 (still have it), then had a Tascam 34. Happy days(ish).

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plexuss
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3566 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:52 pm

ChamomileShark wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:38 pm
that's right..Akai did one I think, can't remember what it was now..

I started with a ReVox A77 (still have it), then had a Tascam 34. Happy days(ish).
Except for the cost of tape! :party:

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ChamomileShark
KVRAF
1714 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:46 am

well apart from...

the cost of tape
forgetting to clean the heads before a session
the noise (and squeaking of reels that got onto recordings sometimes)
print through/ failing to completely erase (saving money on tape)
the Tascam 34 had a dodgy input so sometimes didn't record
they are heavy
they need servicing
oh and before servicing the ReVox managed to break one of my master tapes.

but still I'd forgotten that many of the digital recording I had done sounded a little too pristine so it's nice to have these plugins...

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Aloysius
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25663 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:56 am

Demagnetizing.
Hi-de-Hi!

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ChamomileShark
KVRAF
1714 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:32 am

Aloysius wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:56 am
Demagnetizing.
I used to wave my magic wand for that. I upgraded to an up to date model when I bought one of these

https://picclick.co.uk/Ferrograph-Weari ... 02107.html

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
7524 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Wavesfactory releases Cassette

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:07 am

morelia wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:08 pm
Sorry if it's been asked but can anyone comment on how this compares to Sketch Cassette. I know WC has a deeper feature set but sound wise it is hard to compare. The videos for SC don't give too much away.
I'm currently debating between the two as well. Sketchcassette is only 10 dollars right now and from the one video on the site, it sounds pretty great.
https://aberrantdsp.com/plugins/sketchcassette/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ya-RIA ... e=emb_logo
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1. Bitwig 3.0, Steinberg UR44.

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