One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts (exponent1 Wins!)

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Taron
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2565 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Croatia

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:04 am

exponent1 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:26 am
Taron wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:32 am
Yup, that's me! Though, I may have a reverb to bring things together.
Any snippets or WIP so far? I'm bracing myself for all the amazing sounds and music we'll hear, made with this gorgeous and monstrous synth, can't wait! :hyper:

On the other hand, with so much power, I'm kind of lost and overwhelmed this month. I'm not even sure about what kind of music I want to make this month :help:
My trouble remains that I have no time. Also, the synth- as awesome and wonderful as it is- asks for a very electronic style, using the wicked modulations and even waveform routing possibilities, but it does get overwhelmed by polyphony very quickly. I don't think I will do so well with this one, as much as I love it and know I'd love to, too. But all our dubsteppy folks will have a field day with it and I can't possibly do it justice. I just don't have the time. :shrug:
...so, yeah, it's not unlikely this one will escape me, too. :(

SamDi
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45 posts since 27 Apr, 2018

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:17 am

exponent1 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:18 am
Please do note that any imported wavetables, self-made or otherwise, can't have more than 2 single cycle waveforms in them. Looking forward to your punchy and explosive track.

 
Hm just to be sure, is something like this regarded as asingle cycle?

I would say yes.
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haslo
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9 posts since 5 Dec, 2019

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:20 am

Eauson wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:21 pm
Tried to save presets, doesn't seem to be possible?
You need to change to the "User Presets" folder - the factory presets are write protected.

SamDi
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45 posts since 27 Apr, 2018

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:32 am

Taron wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:21 am

Seriously, though, this synth has even the power to delay envelopes, making it very easy to create dubstep like snares, for example, or any over-exaggerated punches, which you create by bringing in the rest of the sound spectrum after the hit.
Good hint, I am going to start to explore that :D

BTW, where is the right place to discuss phaseplant specifica or discuss usage? Here or in another thread?

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exponent1
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307 posts since 10 Nov, 2018

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am

SamDi wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:17 am
Hm just to be sure, is something like this regarded as asingle cycle?

I would say yes.
Yes it is. And you can import a wavetable consisting of max 2 of those.
SamDi wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:32 am
Good hint, I am going to start to explore that :D

BTW, where is the right place to discuss phaseplant specifica or discuss usage? Here or in another thread?
You can discuss anything related to the current challenge and Phase Plant here in this thread. You can also join the OSC Slack for some on-topic (but mostly off-topic :D) discussion.

Eauson
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913 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:20 am

haslo wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:20 am
Eauson wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:21 pm
Tried to save presets, doesn't seem to be possible?
You need to change to the "User Presets" folder - the factory presets are write protected.
Many thanks,
I'll give it a go and try and upload if anyone is interested, the only other problem I have now, is that it takes about 10 -20 minutes to load the project and hangs my computer ( its called OsChallenge, not bounce media and work with wav challenge : D ) that's why I finished when I did, have to try soon though as my demo runs out in 4 days :D

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Tj Shredder
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3647 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:18 am

Eauson wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:20 am
have to try soon though as my demo runs out in 4 days :D
Send a message to stu, he will extend the period until the end of the month... (its explained on page two...)

StuSmith
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71 posts since 3 Aug, 2015

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:03 am

Eauson wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:20 am

...the only other problem I have now, is that it takes about 10 -20 minutes to load the project and hangs my computer...
I would drop a message to support@kilohearts.com about that with your specs and maybe a project file. Sounds unusual.
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StuSmith
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Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:09 am

SamDi wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:32 am

BTW, where is the right place to discuss phaseplant specifica or discuss usage?
There's not a Phase Plant specific thread on KVR but there is a Facebook group and Discord channel linked at the footer of their website. :)

Maybe there should be a decent Phase Plant thread on here too...
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MrKarolus
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24 posts since 26 Apr, 2017 from Lithuania

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:19 am

It seems that this synth becomes quite demanding on CPU if you try to play more complex chords :?
EDIT: AMD Ryzen 7 x1700, DAW: Reaper

Eauson
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913 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:25 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:18 am
Eauson wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:20 am
have to try soon though as my demo runs out in 4 days :D
Send a message to stu, he will extend the period until the end of the month... (its explained on page two...)
Many thanks Tj,

Not sure I'll go any further, as I won't purchase, if everything was included for the lesser price then it would be a good investment for someone :)
StuSmith wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:03 am
Eauson wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:20 am

...the only other problem I have now, is that it takes about 10 -20 minutes to load the project and hangs my computer...
I would drop a message to support@<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">kilohearts.com</span> about that with your specs and maybe a project file. Sounds unusual.
I think it just the number of instances and my underpowered PC :D
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Tj Shredder
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Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:44 pm

Eauson wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:25 pm
I think it just the number of instances and my underpowered PC :D
If I set up my MPE tricks in Bitwig (send each Midi channel to its own instance) some factory sounds will bug out at voice 4!
And that on a 10-core Mac Pro @ 3 GHz for each core...
Can‘t call my Mac underpowered, I‘d rather call Phase Plant badly optimized... (The same patch run as single polyphonic instance does more voices btw...)

StuSmith
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71 posts since 3 Aug, 2015

Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:36 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:44 pm
Eauson wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:25 pm
I think it just the number of instances and my underpowered PC :D
If I set up my MPE tricks in Bitwig (send each Midi channel to its own instance) some factory sounds will bug out at voice 4!
And that on a 10-core Mac Pro @ 3 GHz for each core...
Can‘t call my Mac underpowered, I‘d rather call Phase Plant badly optimized... (The same patch run as single polyphonic instance does more voices btw...)
I think he was referring to his own computer, not yours. :-)

If you send this info to support they'd be glad of it! With something so modular and capable of very complex patches you will certainly have situations where machines get overloaded. Especially once you start using 'poly' on the FX lanes along with unison... that's a lot to process.

The Kilohearts guys have obviously had to optimise intensely for such a powerful synth to be usable. I wouldn't call it badly optimised. Chances are they've not tested this Bitwig MPE trick. Let them know about it! :-D
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Taron
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Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:34 am

Stu, I had already sent an email to you a while back, but my trial license has expired today. I hope, you'll get to extend it. I'm so short on time that every moment counts that I get to work on my track.

StuSmith
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Re: One Synth Challenge #130: Phase Plant by Kilohearts

Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:53 am

Taron wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:34 am
Stu, I had already sent an email to you a while back, but my trial license has expired today. I hope, you'll get to extend it. I'm so short on time that every moment counts that I get to work on my track.
Sorry! Somehow missed your email... sorted now. :-)
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