How To Get Your Music On Spotify, iTunes, Apple Music (DistroKid Tutorial)
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Yeah that sounds about right. Universal probably made (or who ever is the owner and administrator of the licensing for Portisheads.music publishing) made 100x more than Portishead.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Exactly. Spotify and the label take the vast majority of the revenue and the artist gets bent over.telecode wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:21 pmYeah that sounds about right. Universal probably made (or who ever is the owner and administrator of the licensing for Portisheads.music publishing) made 100x more than Portishead.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
I've no idea who that is but Portishead have some clout.Vortifex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:20 pmI don't understand how that is possible. Do Spotify pay less per stream the more streams you get? Something's not right there. Unless Universal are shafting him big time. Another reason to go independent.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
Zoe Keating earned $12,231 for 2,252,293 streams. Seems Barrow's beef ought to be with his label rather than Spotify.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
My understanding is the labels or license holder get the money before the artist. So yes, streaming is indeed making more money compared to phisical sales and pirating, but it's make it for labels and owners of the content .. not the content creators.. aka you the artist. That's why Radiohead and co. got all pissed off at EMI and their streaming arrangements back in the day when it all started. They went theor own way I believe because Radiohead members and theor management were certain that they understood their fans and their target market better than EMI and would be able to do a much better job making money for themselves from sreaming. And they were right in the end.Vortifex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:20 pmI don't understand how that is possible. Do Spotify pay less per stream the more streams you get? Something's not right there.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
She's an instrmentalist cellist background musician. Nowhere near as big as Portishead.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:26 pmI've no idea who that is but Portishead have some clout.Vortifex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:20 pmI don't understand how that is possible. Do Spotify pay less per stream the more streams you get? Something's not right there. Unless Universal are shafting him big time. Another reason to go independent.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
Zoe Keating earned $12,231 for 2,252,293 streams. Seems Barrow's beef ought to be with his label rather than Spotify.
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
It could be Keating owns more of her own publishing than Portishead. I don't know much about Portishead apart from their music.Vortifex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:20 pmI don't understand how that is possible. Do Spotify pay less per stream the more streams you get? Something's not right there. Unless Universal are shafting him big time. Another reason to go independent.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
Zoe Keating earned $12,231 for 2,252,293 streams. Seems Barrow's beef ought to be with his label rather than Spotify.
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- KVRAF
- 35098 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Could be. It depends on what percentages you agree to when you sign, how much advance money you got, etc ... plus there is more than one person in Portishead, so cash gets split between band members, again depending on what was agreed (presumably).telecode wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:36 pmIt could be Keating owns more of her own publishing than Portishead. I don't know much about Portishead apart from their music.Vortifex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:20 pmI don't understand how that is possible. Do Spotify pay less per stream the more streams you get? Something's not right there. Unless Universal are shafting him big time. Another reason to go independent.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:12 pm Portishead's Geoff Barrow has revealed he earned just $2,500 from 34 million streams of his music. The British took to his Twitter account to blast Apple, YouTube, Spotify and “especially” his label Universal Music for “selling our music so cheaply.”
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news ... on-streams
Zoe Keating earned $12,231 for 2,252,293 streams. Seems Barrow's beef ought to be with his label rather than Spotify.
I earned £0.001 from Spotify last month.
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- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
To a reasonable approximation there is no money in streaming music other than for people who are with huge labels or developed their career before streaming. Sure the IT industry will pick out some utter fluke, probably PR some bullshit about them to make it seem as if anyone can make money, and then promo the shit out of that so millions of people with no chance whatsoever will shovel money into the industry coffers. You would be better off spending your money on lottery tickets
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
I think there are people who are making money streaming who were not recording artists under the old music industry system. But I think those people probably don't *just* make music at home and steam that music. They probably do a lot of other things such as play live, maybe run YT channels, maybe do classes for music software companies. Sort of a musician / social media influencer with a great focus on music.fairlyclose wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:30 am To a reasonable approximation there is no money in streaming music other than for people who are with huge labels or developed their career before streaming.
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- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
you are probably right but their number is vanishingly small compared to those who try and make nothing. I have become utterly suspicious of IT and media industries and their backstories for people making them money. This is not new - Rock Hudson is a great example of how a media industry could keep up the pretense he was heterosexual for decades because it made money to do so. Now we have all these plucky little entrepeneurs who become fabulously wealthy with little going for them other than social networks developed at Harvard etc etctelecode wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:57 amI think there are people who are making money streaming who were not recording artists under the old music industry system. But I think those people probably don't *just* make music at home and steam that music. They probably do a lot of other things such as play live, maybe run YT channels, maybe do classes for music software companies. Sort of a musician / social media influencer with a great focus on music.fairlyclose wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:30 am To a reasonable approximation there is no money in streaming music other than for people who are with huge labels or developed their career before streaming.
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Well, the reason why this happens in the US is the ivy league schools get a big grant from a big corp, and the university uses the grant to start a research project which, if it becomes commercially viable, the people involved take it to market. That's how Blackberry and a crapy load of other industry games changers started out.fairlyclose wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:25 am these plucky little entrepeneurs who become fabulously wealthy with little going for them other than social networks developed at Harvard etc etc
I think to make steady income from the Inernet requires lots of work and constant dealing and wheeling. Unless you are a scammer running scam telemarketing trying to catch old retired people to give you their credit card numbers.
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Loser, I've once got 0,17 USD invoice from a labelI earned £0.001 from Spotify last month.
This. Music industry is sponsored by musicans. Wannabe musicans, that is. There is way too much music created out there for any audience to listen.fairlyclose wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:30 am To a reasonable approximation there is no money in streaming music other than for people who are with huge labels or developed their career before streaming. Sure the IT industry will pick out some utter fluke, probably PR some bullshit about them to make it seem as if anyone can make money, and then promo the shit out of that so millions of people with no chance whatsoever will shovel money into the industry coffers. You would be better off spending your money on lottery tickets
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
Live performance is different tho, great acts really are great and have to deliver - I dont really know modern electronic performance but performed Tai Chi on stage a few months ago with an act called Flume and the show was incredibly professional and one of the women he performed with (Vera Blue) just lit up the stage. People who gain traction through live performance certainly put the work in.
Which I guess leads to one answer - to get lots of plays from streaming, build up a huge audience through live performance
Which I guess leads to one answer - to get lots of plays from streaming, build up a huge audience through live performance
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Yeah. But Flume is huge!! He's one of the biggest electronic EDM / Future Bass artists around . He did a song with Beck not too long ago.fairlyclose wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:49 pm Live performance is different tho, great acts really are great and have to deliver - I dont really know modern electronic performance but performed Tai Chi on stage a few months ago with an act called Flume and the show was incredibly professional and one of the women he performed with (Vera Blue) just lit up the stage. People who gain traction through live performance certainly put the work in.
Which I guess leads to one answer - to get lots of plays from streaming, build up a huge audience through live performance
I am noticing the live performances for newer younger artists are just smaller and kind of wimpy .. less people on stage. Maybe two or three peeps at most and the rest is all pre-recorded and just lights. Unless you go to the oldies 80s and 90s concerts where , yeah, the artists of yesteryear are riding the revival train.
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