KVR Audio

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:05 pm

Teksonik wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:20 pm Some people are looking for new sounds while some still want to use the same Saw wave patch they did fifteen years ago.

And some people like both.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:07 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:04 pm
Unaspected wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:50 pm
byllabong wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:25 pm Does Massive count as a WT synth?

Only one I'd ever need TBH.
Of course. It employs wavetable oscillators.
I heard they were all sacked.

No. That was the guys who coded the oscillators.

Actually don't know that - but I know what you're referring to.

byllabong · Post by **byllabong** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:08 pm

Unaspected wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:07 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:04 pm
Unaspected wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:50 pm
byllabong wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:25 pm Does Massive count as a WT synth?

Only one I'd ever need TBH.
Of course. It employs wavetable oscillators.
I heard they were all sacked.

No. That was the guys who coded the oscillators.

Actually don't know that - but I know what you're referring to.

Well I never!

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:25 pm

Today, a few hours ago, a new wavetable synth was born. It is named Syne. It is mainly an additive synth, and with a very modular architecture. And built by a developer that I like a lot since years and years for his score composing tool that I use every day.

I use this synth since last night and it is absolutely awesome. This new additive/wavetable synth reminds me a lot the famous Kawai K5000 as if it were married to an Argon 8 under the hood of the legendary Ensoniq SD-1 and with an awesome modular GUI.

Watch:
MusicDevelopments

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:49 pm

I wonder - is there any wavetable synth where the single-cycle waveform is actually derived from math equation (and some transformation function), rather than a table / matrix with 256 values for each of 256 states (this I think is the common format)?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:09 pm

Dune 3 allows you to enter a Math Formula to generate a waveform.....

D3 121619-1.png

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:12 pm

antic604 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:49 pm I wonder - is there any wavetable synth where the single-cycle waveform is actually derived from math equation (and some transformation function), rather than a table / matrix with 256 values for each of 256 states (this I think is the common format)?

If they are basic waveforms or mathematical manipulations thereof, you could populate arrays (wavetables) this way - or use FFT - or by summing sine waves, as with additive synthesis. If waveform shape is of importance or interest then I would favour a design method of blasting a phase accumulator (ramp oscillator running from 0 to 1) through some mathematical functions before sampling the result.

There are various methods to design waveforms though, including piecewise methods, which can create some interesting results.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:12 pm

Teksonik wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:09 pm Dune 3 allows you to enter a Math Formula to generate a waveform.....

D3 121619-1.png

So does Serum.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:15 pm

Omg, i could just aswell finally learn FM

In reality though, my puny brain is probably going to stay subtractive forever

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:27 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:12 pm
Teksonik wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:09 pm Dune 3 allows you to enter a Math Formula to generate a waveform.....
D3 121619-1.png
So does Serum.

Ok, but do they - Dune3 and/or Serum - actually use that function and transform / recalculate it real-time further down the chain, or do they calculate it once to quantize the result to fit into the 256 points single-cycle waveform?

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:29 pm

antic604 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:27 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:12 pm
Teksonik wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:09 pm Dune 3 allows you to enter a Math Formula to generate a waveform.....
D3 121619-1.png
So does Serum.
Ok, but do they - Dune3 and/or Serum - actually use that function and transform / recalculate it real-time further down the chain, or do they calculate it once to quantize the result to fit into the 256 points single-cycle waveform?

NFI. I just press the black keys mate.

byllabong · Post by **byllabong** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Black keys make you sound more.....cool.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:36 pm

byllabong wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:33 pm Black keys make you sound more.....cool.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:37 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:29 pmNFI. I just press the black keys mate.

You switched to dark/forest psy?

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:40 pm

antic604 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:37 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:29 pmNFI. I just press the black keys mate.
You switched to dark/forest psy?

Bingo!

Why that wavetable-mania?