KVR Audio

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:23 pm

Inversion Of Control wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:45 pm
Distorted Horizon wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:44 pm
Inversion Of Control wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:57 am Is it worth bothering?
Of course. You can be an ass at January and try to sell it at 50% of the retail price when it goes to payware
Oh, so that's how I can finally start earning money thanks to music?

Nailed it

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:23 pm

The Noodlist wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:13 pm Aquarius is a minimal size portable app, this gives you the option to choose your installation. Once installed, downloaded files can be deleted from within the app.

Can you delete Aquarius itself and the plugin will still work ? With the Arturia Hookware you can not.

Size is not the issue since we all have multi Terabytes of storage these days. To me it's about system stability and security.

For instance Arturia's Software Center requires you to Opt out of Data Mining Telemetry. Do you know for sure what all the apps are doing ? I don't....

I'm being overly protective of my current DAW since if it goes down I'm just as likely to retire from all this nonsense than rebuild it so I'm just not installing bloat for common plugins.

I've thrown everything under the sun at this system....and it's starting to show the effects...

Again I appreciate the generosity of these developers but I also understand their motives are not altogether altruistic.

Enjoy your plugin guys.....

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:43 pm

Its not based on the SSL Fusion. Its based on their own vision of a saturation processor.

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:28 pm

One instance of the versions ending with L is eating 60% of my CPU. And I have a 10-core 3 GHz Mac Pro... Its entirely based on impulse responses, eating 300 MB of disc space...
Just another answer to what you can loose beside time...
There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch...
At the current prices for Mac Pros, you’d better get the hardware it tries to model...

Though the hardware can do only one thing...

Obsolete236871 · Post by **Obsolete236871** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:51 pm

I believe the L versions are the "low latency" version: they have faster realtime performance (introduce less plugin latency in the audio stream) but require more CPU processing. Those Acoustica / Nebula / Acqua based plugin all use some advanced form of impulse response technology which is more accurate and more capable than standard IR, but also more CPU taxing. 60% of a 10-cure 3 GHz Mac Pro is clearly too much CPU tax though. Have you tried the non-L version (the one that introduces more latency, but cost less CPU tax)?

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:30 pm

Yes, they are not as bad and sound much better without those crackles...
But its easy to live without... There are enough options always...

The Noodlist · Post by **The Noodlist** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:48 pm

Yeah, CPU usage can be an issue.
6/7 yr old PC.
AMD FX 8350 8 core 16gb ram Samsung SSD

RME Pci @48khz/buffer 4096

1 instance of Celestial mbzl
Studio One 3.5 - 45%CPU usage

1 instance of Celestial mbzl
Reaper 6 - 5.4% CPU usage.
YMMV.

JO512 · Post by **JO512** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:29 pm

Does it do anything special? Any real "mojo" here? I already have a million ways to saturate, EQ, filter, compress, widen, and so on...

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:31 pm

I don't use Accustica often because of the CPU load, but I got all they're freeware and I remember being initially blown away by they're free Tan Compressor back when I had mainly freeware that comp just blew mostly everything else out the water by just adding dimensions to my tracks I didn't know existed. And still Accustica just offers something completely different in terms of sound that you can't find from other manufacturers. Also they're Acquarius Service Center doesn't bother me because they;re one of the few plugin makers who aren't iLock that aren't cracked and shared for free easily.

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:40 pm

Yes there's clear mojo, presence and punch here. It makes everything sound upfront, punchy, detailed and dirty at the same time.

JO512 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:29 pm Does it do anything special? Any real "mojo" here? I already have a million ways to saturate, EQ, filter, compress, widen, and so on...

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:42 pm

Like can we really deny this thing doesn't sound legit here?

JO512 · Post by **JO512** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

SoundPorn wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:40 pm Yes there's clear mojo, presence and punch here. It makes everything sound upfront, punchy, detailed and dirty at the same time.

JO512 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:29 pm Does it do anything special? Any real "mojo" here? I already have a million ways to saturate, EQ, filter, compress, widen, and so on...

Okay! I guess I'll give it a go...

JO512 · Post by **JO512** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:37 pm

I am trying it and it really seems resource hungry! In all versions, I get immediate pops and clicks with only one track in Reaper with one lightweight instrument and one instance of Celestial. And lots of added latency! Definitely not for realtime use. It might be useful to stick it on something before rendering.

So far, I am not sure it is giving me anything I can't get with my usual tools.

Dombaeb · Post by **Dombaeb** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:59 pm

Unusable...Monstrous CPU load

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:05 pm

Dombaeb wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:59 pm Unusable...Monstrous CPU load

Yeah... that's a challenge with AA products. They use leading-edge technology to do their analogue emulations. I am running a 2010 mac pro 12-core 3GHz machine with Logic and Reaper. AA works pretty ok on it but only up to a point.

Celestials works find on my machine and sounds great so far in my learning it.

Celestial FREE Plugin