Korg releases Korg Triton VST

[tristan-]

I hope they will release a z1 or a triton physical modeling expansion board!

Quite unlikely, since they never reused Z1 code since then. Not even in OASYS/Kronos. Whereas the rest of Triton engine (the rompler part) just got built more and more upon.

Wasn’t there a PCI card released that had all the physical modeling and virtual analog stuff that was from that era of Korg? Maybe I’m just imagining this, but I recall wanting to buy it very badly maybe 12 years back.

Yes, the OASYS PCI. It's all in software already. Though operational with Win 98 systems exclusively.
Its more powerful than a MOSS board in a Triton or a Z1.

[tristan-]

M1 and Wavestation which don't emulate DACs and sound pretty boring and definitely not as good as the original hardware

Nothing you say here on after can be taken seriously.

I wish the system supported likes, +1s or LOL at comments!

[johnwoo]

In the real thing ( I have a Korg Triton Rack ) you can have the Moss EXB (Multi-Oscillator Synthesis System) , like Korg M3 can have Radias ...

[fster]

I hope they will release a z1 or a triton physical modeling expansion board!

Quite unlikely, since they never reused Z1 code since then. Not even in OASYS/Kronos. Whereas the rest of Triton engine (the rompler part) just got built more and more upon.

Wasn’t there a PCI card released that had all the physical modeling and virtual analog stuff that was from that era of Korg? Maybe I’m just imagining this, but I recall wanting to buy it very badly maybe 12 years back.

Yes, the OASYS PCI. It's all in software already. Though operational with Win 98 systems exclusively.
Its more powerful than a MOSS board in a Triton or a Z1.

Yeah, I've got the Oasys PCI card in a dedicated WIN98 machine and it's still very relevant today. There are a ton of programs and multi's in various modules. Pretty much, every type of analogue module was developed. They even included banks of Triton patches. Only wished they updated it to support the latest Windows versions. Never fails to be inspired by it.

[BBFG#]

IMO, this is comparably priced for these type of products in the current market. Even so, I'm not sure if I can personally justify the price.
However, I've been running through the demo for a couple hours now and am really enjoying it.
And yes, the MOSS extension and a separate tube circuit would make it more like my old "Blue Meanie" Extremes!
Still think it's a wait and see for me since NAMM may present even more from other companies and as others have mentioned, Korg historically has better sales than this.

[MFXxx]

IMO, this is comparably priced for these type of products in the current market. Even so, I'm not sure if I can personally justify the price.
However, I've been running through the demo for a couple hours now and am really enjoying it.
And yes, the MOSS extension and a separate tube circuit would make it more like my old "Blue Meanie" Extremes!
Still think it's a wait and see for me since NAMM may present even more from other companies and as others have mentioned, Korg historically has better sales than this.

You logic has tipped me to hold on. Thank you. Got enough toys till BF 2020

[AcrossTheSky]

Weird. We can all sound like it’s 1998 again.

hahaha....yeee..

I thought musicians wanted to produce new stuff......22century?? unknown ???



I do like the short film...I do like the idea of korg team created the " the New Old synth...."
but how far will it go sound wise?? I listend to the sounds yesss 20y ago and I was impressed...
so alive..new...hell fires...

Now the Pigments 2 blows it up with the tons of modulations options available...not happy..add ..
Audiaire NUXX...Byome ??

I must say ...more from a listener's perspective I'm nonstop looking for new sounds in the music I listen to...I agree...the modulation options are the future so is Midi 2 ..

In the END everyone is unique !! just like everyone else ... ...
and...you are lucky if you find a producer ( from a listener's perspective) that will put together the sounds that will ..hit the core...please...relax.you ..take you for a journey ....that noone else will experience ..just like you ...

...somehow in music ...I dont look back...I tried to...listen to old stuff I listend to 20y ago..
and I just cant digest it again..I want new music every day...but ...wait ..I do get stuck on an album for a long time...but it doesnt go back too far in to the past...

enjoy Any sounds/-/music that make you feel good !!!! I hope you all have a great 2020 !! from
a listener and producer point of view !!!

[BONES]

As someone who owned both a fully loaded Trinity and a MicroX, which contained the full Triton ROM, I can't say I see any point in this thing. It seems like a cynical marketing exercise to me when they could have done something more interesting, like e Prophecy or Z-1. I honestly don't think I'd bother downloading this if it was a free upgrade to the collection and I sure as hell won't be paying $200 for the bloody thing.

[Shiek927]

What if you weren't producing music in 1998 and like the sound of the era? C:

I honestly am not really a fan of where the trend is going where every developer and their grandma is trying to make nothing but cleaner and cleaner wavetable synths. I'm not crazy for cleanliness or wavetables. I want character in my synths and in my music and music back then was filled with it.

It's all personal preference of course! everyone plows their own sonic landscape in the end. 2020 is already giving us plenty to choose from ^^

[Shiek927]

As someone who owned both a fully loaded Trinity and a MicroX, which contained the full Triton ROM, I can't say I see any point in this thing. It seems like a cynical marketing exercise to me when they could have done something more interesting, like e Prophecy or Z-1. I honestly don't think I'd bother downloading this if it was a free upgrade to the collection and I sure as hell won't be paying $200 for the bloody thing.

Well of course if you already have the real thing. What if you dont and wanted it with modern day convenience instead of looking at a tiny screen on your keyboard.

[kritikon]

Have to agree with Bones. I bought the whole legacy set on the special recently, but the Triton doesn't really interest me. I'll definitely be using the Wavestation (the only one I originally wanted), but the MS20 and the MonoPoly were useful additions as they have a unique sound and each add something of their own. The Polysix...meh, and the M1 was nice for nostalgia, but really doesn't do anything hundreds of other synth do equally well. Apart from a blast into the Eurohouse past on the piano, I doubt I'll ever use it, and ultimately the same goes for the Triton. If they were selling it at $25 or even $50 and threw it in with the whole package, maybe I'd have got it. Those romplers made perfect sense as h/w back in the day, but not as s/w today. Tritons did sell quite well, but so did their 01/Ws, and I remember them being extraordinarily unextraordinary.

HOWEVER...it does mean their s/w department are still working, so it also means they might come up with some other stuff, which means I'll definitely keep an eye on them. They might do something interesting like a PSS modular, or even something quirky like their MS range vocoder...which I'd buy in a blink of an eye.

[trackbout]

What if you weren't producing music in 1998 and like the sound of the era? C:

I honestly am not really a fan of where the trend is going where every developer and their grandma is trying to make nothing but cleaner and cleaner wavetable synths. I'm not crazy for cleanliness or wavetables. I want character in my synths and in my music and music back then was filled with it.

It's all personal preference of course! everyone plows their own sonic landscape in the end. 2020 is already giving us plenty to choose from ^^

This.

Most modern synth development has just turned into spec wars, and seems to be converging into the same mega synth that does every form of synthesis every invented. Don't get me wrong, Serum, Pigments 2, Falcon 2, 900 GB orchestral libraries etc. are amazing tools and we're lucky to have them, but the Triton occupies a pretty sparsely populated area of the current plugin landscape. I don't know if it's down to sound design, or if they modeled the DACs or whatever, but this plugin has vibes.

[kritikon]

I wonder if has some sort of DAC emulation. Recreating digital algorithms is great, but half of the magic of those digital synths was that liveliness that imperfect DACs added. At least this is my hypothesis, because we have M1 and Wavestation which don't emulate DACs and sound pretty boring and definitely not as good as the original hardware, and also we have Roland Cloud instruments like D50 and JV1080, which actually emulate DACs (I don't know if there's any official info about it, but it can clearly be heard in tails with long decay) and at the same time are very true to their originals.

There is some vague statement about reproducing "subtle sound texture unique to the hardware", which gives me some hope though.

Is this some sort of attempt at trolling? Not a very good one, if it is. The DACs on those old synths were the absolute weakest link (although the onboard fx ran them a close second). The fact I can get a clean Wavestation and put it through decent s/w fx such as a Lexicon reverb is a huge draw for me, and likely anyone who owned the real things...it takes them to a level beyond the originals.
I get that many won't like the character of things like wavestations, but if you think people want to recreate the crappy old DACs of the 90s, I think you grabbed hold of the end of the stick that's been poked into dog poo (definitely not the proper hand-holding end).
About the only thing that could be sillier, is to say we also want the 90s h/w GUIs back. Too many knobs nowadays and we want to go back to a 2 line LCD readout with only 2 buttons and a slider to control 17,812 parameters. (You do know that if you wanted to create a new patch from scratch on, say a Wavestation, you had to book a week's annual leave from work, and you'd better use your time wisely and get up at 3am every day to make sure you got the new pat h finished by the weekend?).

[trackbout]

Another thing I love about this plugin, it seems like you could run 100 instances on an old flip phone, and the patches load instantaneously, no doubt because they are tiny. I still don't understand how its possible to create thousands of multisampled, velocity switched patches out of 250 MB. Mind boggling.

[cci8j]

And I do look forward to loading up multiple instances (in my case, in Blue Cat's Patchwork...).

I have the V2 Legacy Collection and am inclined to take the plunge-- I like the idea that it's a pretty good quality reproduction and has ample room to explore. I never had the hardware, and am happy to augment any flaws with outboard effects or what have you. Do I wish it was a lower price point, or included as a free expansion, sure, but there's clearly a lot of effort that's gone into this, so I'm keen to foster the idea of getting more.

What I don't understand, and I have to admit I struggle with most Korg releases, I can't quite figure out which option to buy to gain this and stay in the best standing for any future Collection additions. Their site is rather scant with instructions/marketing/pre-purchase details-- and this (as many here surely know) is par for the course.

I think, for a brief period, I can pay $149 and should pick the option that references the V2 pack?

Any sympathetic Korg folks around these parts?