Korg releases Korg Triton VST

[CIRCUITWASTE]

I have listened to all Triton demos and frankly they all sound very cheesy to my ears.

Thinking to buy but still not sure. I guess M1 sounds way much better, doesn't it?

I feel the same ...Triton just doesn't inspire me!

[trusampler]

Yamaha is acting through Steinberg which they own. HALion is a variant of Motif basically, in a way.

Right, but sadly imo Halion isn't a replica, and doesn't sound very close to the Motifs. Cool, but not what I and a ton of other Yamaha fans want. I love how Korg and Roland are staying true to the sound source.

[tristan-]

Yamaha is acting through Steinberg which they own. HALion is a variant of Motif basically, in a way.

The first part is correct, but I, as a past Motif ES, XS, XF up to Montage now am pretty sure that non of the Yamaha waveforms from any Motif is included in HALion Sonic SE, HALion Sonic or HALion. They may be from Yamaha, could be, but have nothing to do with the classic Yamaha waveforms regardless of what anyone wrote online about this.

Fact is sadly, that Yamaha is still using the same XF rom in the Montage (its about 25% of its sounds) which is inherited and built up upon from the XS, which is derived from the ES, Classic, etc. because they're still using it (and they still sound great) I find it hard to believe they'll find their way to software platforms.

[JonSolo]

I think Yamaha is missing a slight opportunity here. If they made some of their products available as Halion modules, I would be most happy to buy and add them into Halion. Halion can be incredibly powerful, and inserting modules such as SY-1, DX7, VL series, SY series, EX5, etc would be incredible. They have the technology and vehicle to make it happen.

[trusampler]

Agreed +1

[Whywhy]

Agreed +1

+2

[Tj Shredder]

I think Yamaha is missing a slight opportunity here. If they made some of their products available as Halion modules, I would be most happy to buy and add them into Halion. Halion can be incredibly powerful, and inserting modules such as SY-1, DX7, VL series, SY series, EX5, etc would be incredible. They have the technology and vehicle to make it happen.

I would not be interested if its sample based. Especially a VL-1 would be completely useless as sample based preset.
I bet with the most recent processors it should be possible to recreate a VP-1. That would be a candidate... But Arturia might be faster with this...

[trusampler]

This is definitely how the Triton sounded, one thing I noticed is that if you throw a decent modern limiter on these sounds, they come to life a bit more, same with my karma.
I still have the korg karma same basic audio engine and similar dac from memory, they sound very similar. Still I like what it sounds like with a better limiter.

[tristan-]

I think Yamaha is missing a slight opportunity here. If they made some of their products available as Halion modules, I would be most happy to buy and add them into Halion. Halion can be incredibly powerful, and inserting modules such as SY-1, DX7, VL series, SY series, EX5, etc would be incredible. They have the technology and vehicle to make it happen.

I would not be interested if its sample based. Especially a VL-1 would be completely useless as sample based preset.
I bet with the most recent processors it should be possible to recreate a VP-1. That would be a candidate... But Arturia might be faster with this...

There's a problem with the VL stuff. It's really not up to date. even with "Patchman" sounds loaded in. It sounds really dated, and even back in the day, its sound didn't compete with the sampled stuff. Not to mention some of the amazing Kontakt libraries of today. That's why Yamaha discontinued VL synthesis development eons ago. Too much R&D involved to make it sound really good and most users who probably aren't on KVR prefer the sampled stuff anyways.

[EvilDragon]

I guess M1 sounds way much better, doesn't it?

M1 sounds quite a lot more lo-fi by comparison...

[Jace-BeOS]

The M3 was weirdly positioned alongside their much more expensive and feature-filled, top-of-the-line Kronos. And then they also undercut it shortly after with the cheaper and feature-reduced Krome. I never understood their thinking with all this...

M3 also came out when software studios had become THE thing. Triton didn’t have that same competition, so I imagine end user perception of them is much more affectionate toward the Triton just by default because it had more room to sell units.

The m3 was released long before the kronos , it was release when the Oasys was their flagship synth

Oops. I almost did say “Oasys”. Thanks for the correction.

[Shiek927]

It did, IMO, make for a large amount of very samey material coming out.

Just like every analog synth....

Anyway the more time I spend with the demo the more I like it. Such a refreshing change to all the VA synths released and just a ton of fun to program.

Takes me back to an era when Shaku, Bottle Blow, Pan Flutes, Bells, Ahhh Choirs etc ruled the land.

Don't look at it as a source of hyper realistic acoustic instruments but as an instrument capable of capturing the sound of an era. Certainly as deserving of nostalgia as the DX7.

I'm thinking of selling my DIVA license to get this.....that should tell you how I feel (and how little money I have in the budget for more plugins this time of year).

I definitely wouldn't sell Diva! they compliment each other wonderfully and I couldn't pick one over the other. Authentic rich analog with digital beauty

I also finally started playing around with the Triton VST and I can say it's an absolute keeper. Just playing a few Combi patches..I love it! sample import would be fun, but I honestly could live without it. Just having the Triton in my DAW is more than enough.

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Speaking of Yamaha though, while I'm not pining for it as much as a WaldorfQ VST, I wouldn't mind whatsoever a AN1x VST. Just sayin'!

[Tj Shredder]

I think Yamaha is missing a slight opportunity here. If they made some of their products available as Halion modules, I would be most happy to buy and add them into Halion. Halion can be incredibly powerful, and inserting modules such as SY-1, DX7, VL series, SY series, EX5, etc would be incredible. They have the technology and vehicle to make it happen.

I would not be interested if its sample based. Especially a VL-1 would be completely useless as sample based preset.
I bet with the most recent processors it should be possible to recreate a VP-1. That would be a candidate... But Arturia might be faster with this...

There's a problem with the VL stuff. It's really not up to date. even with "Patchman" sounds loaded in. It sounds really dated, and even back in the day, its sound didn't compete with the sampled stuff. Not to mention some of the amazing Kontakt libraries of today. That's why Yamaha discontinued VL synthesis development eons ago. Too much R&D involved to make it sound really good and most users who probably aren't on KVR prefer the sampled stuff anyways.

Physical modelling is all about real time expression. You just don't get that with samples! Maybe hard to understand for keyboard players who are limited to key switches...
I once had the honour to sit at a VP-1. It was a mind blowing experience back then. The technology is much advanced nowadays and still rarely used. The last few years there is a slow change though, thanks to Rolis pushing of MPE...

[Aloysius]

+1 Physical modelling is crap

[Jace-BeOS]

+1 Physical modelling is crap

You mean physical modeling is the shit.