KVR Audio

mladi · Post by **mladi** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:42 pm

Forgotten wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:58 pm
Aloysius wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:33 pm +1 Physical modelling is crap
I’ve not seen anyone try to physically model a crap.

Psssttt... don't tell him that PM goes nowdays way behind what he think it is.

tristan- · Post by **tristan-** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:55 pm

So this is how to arrive at 10,000s messages on this board...

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:04 pm

trackbout wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:07 amCUBASE?! Oh man, I missed that response. Ok clearly you are just here to troll. I'm gonna duck out now and let you do your thing. Happy New Year!!

You're forgetting what a workstation synth is. I replaced my Korg Trinity with a PC and software, simple as that. Cubase does all the things I used to do on my Trinity. It ships with loads of sounds and effects, just like the Triton, and allows me to finish complete songs to a high standard, just like a Triton. Cubase is, in a very real way, exactly what Triton is - one place to make music, from conception to finished song. That we choose to use a lot of third party plugins in Cubase doesn't detract from the fact that it ships with excellent stuff of its own - Groove Agent, HALion, Padshop Pro, Retrologue, etc., plus a whole raft of effects to choose from. You could happily make music for an entire lifetime using only the tools Cubase ships with. Easily.

Arp_ · Post by **Arp_** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:25 am

No one seriously would use Triton as a workstation. Even back in 2000s when everyone was accustomed to artificially sounding tiny samples of real instruments, Triton wasn't really the best at it.

For me, it's primarily a synth with its signatory sampled sounds for oscillators and certain overall character that I happen to like. Sample based oscillators with well designed ROM, VA like architecture and ability for layering many patches give it possibilities to make a lot of sounds that are something different that what most modern synth are capable of producing.

musicdoc · Post by **musicdoc** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:29 am

I see some people here talking about the triton being for nostalgia and 90’s. If you load up an acoustic guitar patch or some of the pianos that certainly will be the case but that is not where it’s value lies to me.

The pads, synths, leads, synth basses are all top notch and are just fine for modern productions. Realistic acoustic instruments- out comes Kontakt or a number of high gig count VSTs. Triton makes it convenient in that there is virtually no load time between sounds and they all have consistent high quality programming. It makes it very easy to quickly get inspired and start making music.

On the other hand you have Sample players like SampleTank that take a boatload of disk space, take 20 sec or more to load some sounds, have not the most consistent programming and lots of filler (same patch with slightly different fx) and try to make swells/drones/synth stuff by brute sampling of everything instead of clever synth engine programming.

So in the end, a super efficient sample set, top notch programming, familiarity with Kong stuff(own a triton), convenience, a huge sound set and most importantly for a rompler- super quick load times made this a buy for me.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:42 am

Who cares how long it takes to load a patch? Do you do patch changes in the middle of songs? Why wouldn't you just use two instances of the instrument instead?

Arp_ wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:25 am No one seriously would use Triton as a workstation. Even back in 2000s when everyone was accustomed to artificially sounding tiny samples of real instruments, Triton wasn't really the best at it.

For me, it's primarily a synth with its signatory sampled sounds for oscillators and certain overall character that I happen to like. Sample based oscillators with well designed ROM, VA like architecture and ability for layering many patches give it possibilities to make a lot of sounds that are something different that what most modern synth are capable of producing.

Did you read back what you typed before you posted it? In the first paragraph you say how bad Triton sounds, then in the next paragraph you say you liked it for its sounds. Does this mean you like "artificially sounding tiny samples of real instruments"? As for using it to make songs, I made dozens of songs on workstation synths and the first thing NOVAkILL ever released was done entirely on my Trinity, up to and including the vocal recording (courtesy of the sampler board and an external SCSI drive).

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:44 am

Wait, how old are these 4000 sounds..?
This is like, pre-Timbaland.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:26 am

highkoo wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:59 pm Has anyone in this thread figured out why they made this thing..?
Im sure we have brought up the jokes from years ago about 'virtual-digital' vst?
The future is here!

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:28 am

musicdoc wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:29 am I see some people here talking about the triton being for nostalgia and 90’s. If you load up an acoustic guitar patch or some of the pianos that certainly will be the case but that is not where it’s value lies to me.

The pads, synths, leads, synth basses are all top notch and are just fine for modern productions. Realistic acoustic instruments- out comes Kontakt or a number of high gig count VSTs. Triton makes it convenient in that there is virtually no load time between sounds and they all have consistent high quality programming. It makes it very easy to quickly get inspired and start making music.

On the other hand you have Sample players like SampleTank that take a boatload of disk space, take 20 sec or more to load some sounds, have not the most consistent programming and lots of filler (same patch with slightly different fx) and try to make swells/drones/synth stuff by brute sampling of everything instead of clever synth engine programming.

So in the end, a super efficient sample set, top notch programming, familiarity with Kong stuff(own a triton), convenience, a huge sound set and most importantly for a rompler- super quick load times made this a buy for me.

It's the pads that I recall liking, myself. I was impressed (at the time) with the distortion and aggressiveness of some of them (if I demoed the instrument I think I demoed).

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:30 am

Forgotten wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:58 pm
Aloysius wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:33 pm +1 Physical modelling is crap
I’ve not seen anyone try to physically model a crap.

Oh... people HAVE modeled craps...

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=3d+model+of+shit

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:47 am

I'm interested.. but

Not for $250! Let alone the $199 sale they have. I'd get this if it were $99..

I'll probably end up buying from someone who gets tired of the sounds and wants to sell their KORG account.

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:17 am

The Triton was always used as a hardware Rompler not an actual workststion. It became legendary bcuz of early urban radio being dominated by guys like the Neptunes and Timbaland who were making platinum records with stock Triton presets then it helped change the sound of contemporary pop music until getting replaced sonically by vstis like Nexus.

But the Triton was always used in conjunction with an MPC or even resampled into an ASR10 before being imported into pro tools for final mixing and arrangement

ATN69 · Post by **ATN69** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:29 am

I wish Korg would give some love to their legacy collection and bring those plugs into the year 2020, before they release new plugs. IMO Korg have one or two things to prove in order to become a trusted soft synth company. Promises made long ago to update the legacy plugs didn't happen until now. I bought a license of their ARP Odyssey hoping that they would use the fresh cash to blow some life into their software development. I hope Korg will finally do it and also release some more of their vintage HW models as plugins.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:46 am

BONES wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:42 amWhy wouldn't you just use two instances of the instrument instead?

Maybe because one instance of Triton is about 400 MB of RAM... So why not utilize one instance as much as possible, since it already supports bank/program changes?

Sure we have loads of RAM nowadays, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't use it frugally, especially in larger projects.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:09 am

V0RT3X wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:47 am I'm interested.. but

Not for $250! Let alone the $199 sale they have. I'd get this if it were $99..

I'll probably end up buying from someone who gets tired of the sounds and wants to sell their KORG account.

Korg plugins' licenses are neither refundable nor transferable. Once purchased it's for life.

1. Can I refund a purchase?

2. Can I transfer the license to my friend?

At this price it's a shame.

Since the 70s I love Korg for their hardware lineup. And their software emulations are really nice (sounding speaking, not visually speaking)... but their software politics is a full bullshit.

Korg releases Korg Triton VST