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[EvilDragon]

Considering we started counting from year 1 AD, not from year 0 AD, decade ends at year 10 AD, new decade starts at year 11 AD etc.

1 AD
2 AD
3 AD
4 AD
5 AD
6 AD
7 AD
8 AD
9 AD
10 AD

new decade starts:

11 AD
12 AD
13 AD
14 AD
15 AD
16 AD
17 AD
18 AD
19 AD
20 AD

new decade starts...

etc.


But apparently there's no world consensus on this, so we even have names for this. The above, correct method, is called "ordinal", and the tens-digit method is called "cardinal".

[fmr]

Nope, thats exactly wrong. Like i already outlined above, the first year of each decade starts at x0, not x1, i.e. the first year in this decade is from 2020 to 2021 (not 2021 to 2022) and the tenth/last year will be from 2029 to 2030, which will then complete the decade of the 20s and simultaneously start the decade of the 30s.

Just think about it again and im sure it will come to you.

Nope. As I just explained, if you count that way, the first "decade" AD would only have NINE years: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

And how did you wrote that the next decade STARTS in the end of year x0, and now changed it to the beginning?

Again, count your fingers. You count from 1 to 10, or from 0 to 9? Is your first finger 0?

[EvilDragon]

Only programmers count from 0.

Unless you're doing Lua, MATLAB, Fortran, Mathematica, Smalltalk, Erlang, Lisp, or JavaScript.

[ENV1]

Considering we started counting from year 1 AD, not from year 0 AD, decade ends at year 10 AD, new decade starts at year 11 AD etc.

1 AD
2 AD
3 AD
4 AD
5 AD
6 AD
7 AD
8 AD
9 AD
10 AD

new decade starts:

11 AD
12 AD
13 AD
14 AD
15 AD
16 AD
17 AD
18 AD
19 AD
20 AD

new decade starts...

etc.

You got it right, only you must start counting at 0 for these numbers to be correct, otherwise you would have lost a full completed year and all numbers would get pushed forward by +1.

(Like i said, for 10 full years in a decade it goes 00-01, 01-02, 02-03 ... 09-10)

[EvilDragon]

BUT THERE IS NO YEAR 0 AD! This is not how things work in Gregorian calendar which majority of the world uses.

Hence, you don't need to start at year 0 for the above to be correct. Count with fingers. 1 to 10 is 10 complete years. 11 to 20 is another 10 completed years, etc.

You're strangely mixing up ordinal with cardinal decade numbering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decade

[ENV1]

Again, count your fingers. You count from 1 to 10, or from 0 to 9? Is your first finger 0?

Well maybe if you stopped counting fingers instead of years youd finally see where your error is.

So once again, count these, and if you think thats not 10 then im afraid i will have to give up.

Year 1 is from 00 to 01
Year 2 is from 01 to 02
Year 3 is from 02 to 03
Year 4 is from 03 to 04
Year 5 is from 04 to 05
Year 6 is from 05 to 06
Year 7 is from 06 to 07
Year 8 is from 07 to 08
Year 9 is from 08 to 09
Year 10 is from 09 to 10

[fmr]

BUT THERE IS NO YEAR 0 AD! This is not how things work in Gregorian calendar which majority of the world uses.

If there was a year 0, this year would be 2019, and the new decade wouldn't have started yet (either)

[XorXisT]

Dionysius Exiguus based the beginning of year BCE 1 in the Julian calendar, the predecessor of today's calendar system, on a religious event—the birth of Jesus—which not only lacks astronomical relevance but is also based on religious lore and, as such, a rough estimation at best.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/21/us/w ... index.html

It doesn't matter, really.

[ENV1]

BUT THERE IS NO YEAR 0 AD! This is not how things work in Gregorian calendar which majority of the world uses.

Hence, you don't need to start at year 0 for the above to be correct. Count with fingers. 1 to 10 is 10 complete years. 11 to 20 is another 10 completed years, etc.

You're strangely mixing up ordinal with cardinal decade numbering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decade

Im sorry. To me a decade starts when it starts and ends when it ends. If we are in Year 2020 then that is quite obviously the first year of the decade of the 20s, and the last year will thus be 2029, not 2030 or even later. Anything else makes no sense.

[EvilDragon]

...to some.

[ENV1]

...to some.

One more shot.

While it is true that there is no 'Year 0' as such, there absolutely is a Year 0-1, i.e. the very first year there is. Obviously this year has to be completed and counted before you can proceed, i.e. you cant just start at Year 1 and go to Year 2 as though that first year 0-1 doesnt count as a year as well.

So what we have at the start of every decade is that the first year necessarily ends in a 0. Not exactly a surprise, because thats just how it is in the Base 10 system. So new decade starts at 2020, first year in the decade thus lasts from beginning of 2020 to end of 2020, which is simultaneously the beginning of 2021. Same thing with the tenth/last year. It lasts from the start of 2029 to the end of 2029, which is simultaneously the start of 2030, a new decade, made obvious by the fact that we are now in the 30s and no longer in the 20s.

By all means feel free to disagree but theres just no way i could see it any other way.

[EvilDragon]

Of course you can start at year 1. There's no year 0.

Where's your 0th finger?

[dtrq]

You people don't understand that discrete things are counted and the continuous are measured. Just look at time ruler in your DAW, the first measure starts with 0. The first hour start from 0:00, length units start from 0, everything that lies on a scale and has beginning and end starts from 0, unlike whole things like fingers etc. This is why in the first year there were no year number - because Year 1 as a complete time unit didn't existed until 12 months since Jesus birth have passed.

[EvilDragon]

...except in a number of DAWs you can set it so that the first measure starts from whatever number, or whatever timecode (for various purposes).

A year is basically a discrete segment of time, so it can be counted.

[fmr]

You people don't understand that discrete things are counted and the continuous are measured.

Except that TIME is a continuum, but YEARS is a discrete reality. When you refer to an event (for example, WW II) you say "the first year of war", not "the 0th year of war"). Everybody knows when the year is complete, but the matter is NOT when it is complete, but when it STARTS.

And everyone in here agrees that year 1 starts immediately - therefore, there is no year 0 (because that would be absurd). Also, regarding time, you never have 00:00:000. No matter how low you go, you will always have some time already passed to measure.

Arguing that year 1 starts when it ends is a nonsense.

Regarding a "decade", a decade is technically ten years, so you can start counting 10 years whenever you want. The "20s" start in 2020, and end in 2029. That's OK. You have ten years that share in common the fact that all of them are "twenty something". You could have "the decade of rock'n roll" starting in 1955 and ending in 1964, or whatever.

But that's not "the decade" when referring to our calendar, because the XXI century started in 2001 (and the XX started in 1901), and each decade starts in the first year (year 1). This is common knowledge and common sense, otherwise if you went back to the I century, you would not have "a century" (100 years) but only 99 years. Do the math.

Besides, what's the logic of having the XX century with years 1901... up to 2000? Following the line of thought of some around here, that should have been the XIX century, then