What synth do you actually USE the most in your own music????
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- addled muppet weed
- 105877 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
that first sentence....e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:57 pm The important synth innovations have all been made a long time ago.
If the DX7 programmer is an expert, he or she could certainly make authentic Moog-like sounds on it. But I heard that synth was difficult to program and many people only used the presets because of that.
With me it is the other way round, I love the way music sounded in the 80's. And judging from the many comments under 80's videos, even from people who were not even born yet back then, there is something timeless about it.
Definitely, I also love a couple of instrumental tracks, which I indeed consider art. But EDM is just a very different drawer. Another genre overwhelmingly instrumental that I don't like is Smooth Jazz, it is also cheap, albeit it in another way.
I didn't say classical music has no soul, I said it sounds cold TO ME, no soul. Just like when you say it sounds amazing, it means TO YOU. It is my opinion and applies to 99% of classical music I have heard so far. There are a few romantic French pieces I like, though. But Mozart etc., no thanks.
also, no dx7 programmer can get an authentic moog sound out of that synth.
of course tho! opinions about music are always... opinions; nothing more (or less).
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- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
my first synth was a dx-7, complete with the tapes on how to program it
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- KVRAF
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
ok, it's not bad... (not definitive, but not bad).
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 18 Feb, 2004
There was a ton of choice "back then". Jesus man, the 80s had everything from pure analog, FM, additive, sample-based, etc. Arguably there was more choice then, not less.e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 am
The difference is that back then synths were something new, now they are omnipresent and thus nothing special anymore. Back then they did not have much choice indeed, now we do, which includes opting for synths that don't sound modern. Again, I don't want to appeal to young people today, but people of my generation. And we are perfectly fine with classic sounds.
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- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
Depends, in the early 80's things were different from the late 80's.rezoneight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:20 pmThere was a ton of choice "back then". Jesus man, the 80s had everything from pure analog, FM, additive, sample-based, etc. Arguably there was more choice then, not less.e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 am
The difference is that back then synths were something new, now they are omnipresent and thus nothing special anymore. Back then they did not have much choice indeed, now we do, which includes opting for synths that don't sound modern. Again, I don't want to appeal to young people today, but people of my generation. And we are perfectly fine with classic sounds.
My favorite albums were mostly from between 78 and 83.
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- KVRAF
- 6467 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
well judging by the comments below some EDM classics such as Alice Deejay, or Darude Sandstorm, there's something timeless about them as well. Does that give merit to EDM to you, since I drew a parallel with what you said about the 80s?e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:57 pm The important synth innovations have all been made a long time ago.
If the DX7 programmer is an expert, he or she could certainly make authentic Moog-like sounds on it. But I heard that synth was difficult to program and many people only used the presets because of that.
With me it is the other way round, I love the way music sounded in the 80's. And judging from the many comments under 80's videos, even from people who were not even born yet back then, there is something timeless about it.
Definitely, I also love a couple of instrumental tracks, which I indeed consider art. But EDM is just a very different drawer. Another genre overwhelmingly instrumental that I don't like is Smooth Jazz, it is also cheap, albeit it in another way.
I didn't say classical music has no soul, I said it sounds cold TO ME, no soul. Just like when you say it sounds amazing, it means TO YOU. It is my opinion and applies to 99% of classical music I have heard so far. There are a few romantic French pieces I like, though. But Mozart etc., no thanks.
I personally do not like the whole classical era and most german classical music, french impressionism is where in the history my soft spot is at, and then some of the more recent history.
But that's beside the point. I don't think its fair to dismiss a genre based on a few brainless bangers you've came across, that's like judging the whole 70s on the Archies, or the whole 80s on "Hey Mickey!" or "We built this city on rock'n'roll"
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- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
Just checked a few videos from the two names you mentioned, horrible stuff, can't listen to that for more than 10 seconds. It offends my ears.Ploki wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:38 pmwell judging by the comments below some EDM classics such as Alice Deejay, or Darude Sandstorm, there's something timeless about them as well. Does that give merit to EDM to you, since I drew a parallel with what you said about the 80s?e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:57 pm The important synth innovations have all been made a long time ago.
If the DX7 programmer is an expert, he or she could certainly make authentic Moog-like sounds on it. But I heard that synth was difficult to program and many people only used the presets because of that.
With me it is the other way round, I love the way music sounded in the 80's. And judging from the many comments under 80's videos, even from people who were not even born yet back then, there is something timeless about it.
Definitely, I also love a couple of instrumental tracks, which I indeed consider art. But EDM is just a very different drawer. Another genre overwhelmingly instrumental that I don't like is Smooth Jazz, it is also cheap, albeit it in another way.
I didn't say classical music has no soul, I said it sounds cold TO ME, no soul. Just like when you say it sounds amazing, it means TO YOU. It is my opinion and applies to 99% of classical music I have heard so far. There are a few romantic French pieces I like, though. But Mozart etc., no thanks.
I personally do not like the whole classical era and most german classical music, french impressionism is where in the history my soft spot is at, and then some of the more recent history.
But that's beside the point. I don't think its fair to dismiss a genre based on a few brainless bangers you've came across, that's like judging the whole 70s on the Archies, or the whole 80s on "Hey Mickey!" or "We built this city on rock'n'roll"
Whether it is timeless, only time can tell. Let's wait 30 years and see if teens will leave comments on YT I will certainly be dead by then.
That's the problem, I don't know a single EDM song I like, so I all but have to generalize. It's like with Metal, I don't know any Metal song I like, so I simply reject the entire genre.
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 18 Feb, 2004
No, it doesn't depend. You've got analog, FM, additive, sampling, and wavetable just in that range you're referring to.e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:26 pmDepends, in the early 80's things were different from the late 80's.rezoneight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:20 pmThere was a ton of choice "back then". Jesus man, the 80s had everything from pure analog, FM, additive, sample-based, etc. Arguably there was more choice then, not less.e-crooner wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 am
The difference is that back then synths were something new, now they are omnipresent and thus nothing special anymore. Back then they did not have much choice indeed, now we do, which includes opting for synths that don't sound modern. Again, I don't want to appeal to young people today, but people of my generation. And we are perfectly fine with classic sounds.
My favorite albums were mostly from between 78 and 83.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
C'mon man, now you are killing me, try these at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fij9-suqRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YRs5Dt9uRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ8PXXrCasE
Bonus, long live Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y25snz83ms
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SynclavierThe Synclavier was an early digital synthesizer, polyphonic digital sampling system, and music workstation manufactured by New England Digital Corporation of Norwich, Vermont. It was produced in various forms from the late 1970s into the early 1990s. The instrument has been used by prominent musicians.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
+1
The Axel Rudi Pell track you selected reminds me a bit of any of those awesome tracks by Hardline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afAyVmKq16Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpAwpQOVOB4
I like to include at least one track by Teutonic rockers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MveUwosb2Rw
or two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u_8tba0jSI
Are we going off topic now?
Some metal genres do use synths. We could talk about that.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005